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imported_OUZO Power 25-Sep-2003 08:54 AM

D16 Engine + ZC Tranny???
 
Hey guys. quick question. Does a trany from a ZC motor bolt on to a D16 without any issues?

Thanks.

punkindrublic 25-Sep-2003 08:55 AM

it should be fine yes... my friend has a ZC hooked up to an Si tranny so i'd assume they will work together

Zer0DazE 25-Sep-2003 10:13 AM

better idea is zc gears in an ex/si tranny (with ex/si final drive)

punkindrublic 25-Sep-2003 10:20 AM

but then you have to rebuild.. .which i guess wouldn't be hard if you knew what you were doing....

SilverCRXSi 25-Sep-2003 10:22 AM

Do you mean the SOHC ZC or DOHC ZC?
I know with the DOHC ZC you need new linkages and axles. (only reason I didnt do it)
Also IF ya do the ZC tranny I hope ya dont drive on the highway, unless you like a super high rpm at 100km (i hear its at like 4500-5000 rpm at at 100km)
Hybrid is the best if you can do it.

Zer0DazE 25-Sep-2003 01:42 PM


Originally posted by SilverCRXSi
Do you mean the SOHC ZC or DOHC ZC?
I know with the DOHC ZC you need new linkages and axles. (only reason I didnt do it)
Also IF ya do the ZC tranny I hope ya dont drive on the highway, unless you like a super high rpm at 100km (i hear its at like 4500-5000 rpm at at 100km)
Hybrid is the best if you can do it.

its not all that bad as long as you have a resonator and dont have a fart can.. i have a very mellow exhaust, and use a SRR 4.7 final drive in my d series tranny.

however if you have an obnoxious exhaust system, it will only make it 10 times worse.

imported_OUZO Power 25-Sep-2003 03:59 PM

OK Update. He wants to toss in Gears 3 & 4 into his D16 Tranny from a ZC one. I guess it's a DOHC ZC. I would just bolt on the ZC if he's looking for shorter gearing. But I assume he wants the cuising 5th gear.

dingus8 25-Sep-2003 06:18 PM

the finaldrive on the zc is different so the 3rd and 4th will **** up the ratio's between all the gears....jsut get a zc tranny or si tranny...zc takes the d16a integra half shaft (if it dosent' come with one) and axles.....and rpm's at 100 km/h arent' that high they are jsut slightly higher than the si tranny....get the lsd..:thumbup:

red90dx 25-Sep-2003 07:47 PM

ok
as long as the tranny is hyro and your car is hydro it will work

the SI transmission is of better gearing ratio : 4.255 final vs 3.888 (ZC), but the zc has closer 1-5, so the best option is to install a SI final drive into the ZC tranny,

If you use a ZC tranny you will need 90-93 axles, and the jackshaft MUST MUST be from the ZC get it from a japanese importer if you have to,

OR option #2 is to transfer 1-5 gears from the zc tranny into the SI casing, but I have heard clearance problems with this...


if you need anymore info on this I got both tranny's and can help you with any info you need..

coreyhayman 25-Sep-2003 09:01 PM

with my stock si tranny at 100km/h im running 2900rpm's....

imported_OUZO Power 25-Sep-2003 11:15 PM

Guys. Thanks with all the valuable input. Learned alot on this. So did my friend. Don't know how he's gonna go about this.

Blue Dream 26-Sep-2003 07:30 AM

dont get me wrong if you have the parts by all means use the zc tranny its great. one day you can swap the final and have a very nice geared tranny.

imported_OUZO Power 26-Sep-2003 08:46 AM

Guys check this out. Interesting page. Look at the bottom. I guess thats what he wants to do.

http://home.cinci.rr.com/mistab0ne/tranny.html

Zer0DazE 26-Sep-2003 09:26 AM


Originally posted by OUZO Power
Guys check this out. Interesting page. Look at the bottom. I guess thats what he wants to do.

http://home.cinci.rr.com/mistab0ne/tranny.html

i was just about to post this up.

someone said that putting in the 3rd and 4th would mess up the ratios... this couldnt be more wrong.
it helps them greatly. one of the big down falls of the d series is the crappy gearing we are stuck with. mixing and matching gears, or using an after market final drive makes a huge difference in performance.

the page above is mista bones page... you can catch him on the alternativehonda and he is always more than happy to share is knowledge of the d series tranny.

L8apex 26-Sep-2003 01:02 PM

Hey guys Thanks a lot for all the info! It is about me that my friend Ouzo was asking all these !

So 3&4 gears do fit right in the Z6 tranny!!! Ok but is it a bolt on case or I have to make any other changes e.x drive axils

Red90dx can you check this out?I believe that you have both trannys.

punkindrublic 26-Sep-2003 01:54 PM

from knowledge of the internals of a tranny... changing gears doesn't require new axles... how could it? all your changing is an internal part

dingus8 26-Sep-2003 02:38 PM

ya but the zc tranny has a half shaft with equal length drive shafts which is different compared to the si tranny that is all....

punkindrublic 26-Sep-2003 03:08 PM


Originally posted by dingus8
ya but the zc tranny has a half shaft with equal length drive shafts which is different compared to the si tranny that is all....
but that shouldn't affect it if your just changing gears though? would it?

Zer0DazE 26-Sep-2003 03:55 PM


Originally posted by dingus8
ya but the zc tranny has a half shaft with equal length drive shafts which is different compared to the si tranny that is all....
as long as hes not using the zc case the half shafts will be the same

Blue Dream 27-Sep-2003 12:36 AM

if you use a zc tranny it needs to be hydro if your car is 92+

if you change to zc, you MUST have the jackshaft, and 90-93 axles


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