imported_Gatsby

Hi. I picked up a 93 CX Hatch, for cheap. Needed a motor (blown) and maybe a fresh coat of paint. No rust anything.

Anyway. I went to Tiger Japaneses, and asked for a D15B replacement motor. Sure no problem I was told. I see the engine, it looks like a D15B7, with the 16Valve writen on valve cover. Super clean engine. So Im all happy and I pay them $460 for it with taxes and delivery included.
I get home, start working on it, and since this was Carbed (I had never seen such thing before, but what the hell. Engine is super clean) I had to switch the intake and exhaust manifolds, along with the Alt and Distributor.

Now I was just finishing it up tonight, and I realized it says D13B on the block!!! Im like what the F@CK? So I look it up and I see its a 1.3 liter, single carbed engine wih 83 HP!!!! So Im pissed!!! F@ckers at Tiger Jap. ripped me off. Any how, the engine is in the car and its ready to fire up.

So my question is, will the D13B engine work fine with the D15B7 ECU, MPFI, and Distributor? And if so, do you think I will have more than 83 HP, since its MPFI now?

Thanks for your help.

imported_Spiderman

hahaha 83hp...hahahaha!

1ofAkind

umm the answer to the question is TAKE IT BACK! get the right motor. Tiger Japan always ****** up like this.would never deal with them for engines.heard too many stories from too many people.good luck....i wouldn't put that 83 hp motor in my car.because that motor is realistically worth no more than 300 bucks.So if u go away with it,u'll still be ripped off and ur car will be very slow.peace

imported_Gatsby

Ya laugh at my 83 HP CX hatch! But prepare your *** for a nice hole enlargment, when my TUNED 93 B16A2 Coupe is comming after it!!

Well performance is no big issue here, since Im putting this car together, for a family member, who doesnt care about speed. The engine is very clean, and lookes new, eventhough it is dated mid 1992 on the head.

On the other hand, I have done everything, including changing Intake and exhaust manifold (with new gaskets), Distributor, Alternator, Switching over the engine harness and changing all the mounts. Its ready to fire-up. So its too late to take it back. Im still gonna go there and bitch at them though....

My concern is that if it will work good with the B15D7 components switched over from the old engine......?

Im sure I will get at least 90-95 HP out of it (not very far from 102 HP Dx motor), since its using Multiport fuel injection (as oppose to stock single carburator) and its running off a 93 DX ECU.... Im still worried about tunning though... Will it run stoich? Hmmm....

On the other hand, This current setup, will probably be as strong as a D15B7, since its low kms (50,000KM hopefully) and has higher compression than the high milage north american D15B7s that are around....

imported_Gatsby

Crap! Maybe I should have posted this in Performance Forum? But then I wanted others to know about the Crooks at Tiger Jap. And Also about the existance of a 92 D13B engine!!

MugenJDMCRX

well I always thought all the D series had 75mm bores, to make a 1.3 would require a 72-75mm stroke, you might have a nice high revver there, and we thought B16s were torqueless wonders lol. anyways i dont see a problem in what your doing. Someone correct me if im wrong on the bore of the d13

imported_Cablerat

uhhhh.. You can CLEAN any engine.. just takes a bit of degreaser and scrubbing.. TAKE IT BACK!

Why the hell wouldn't you read the engine code before buying??

I bought my h22 from tiger.. I remember them being jerks, but if you act the same no worries. I told him I wanted to do a swap. so he shows me this fuked up 22. I'm like ok, I'll take the motor from here.. Harness from this engine, 2 sensors of that one. downpipe off this one. Finally he's like ok, there's a prelude front end in the back, go take whatever you want. $2800 CASH!

Back then it was a good deal for a full swap package with mounts, ecu, shift linkage, full harness, motor, driveshafts, etc..

imported_starboy869

I was wondering that also.

First off you should've known something was wrong with just the intake. Carb?

If it was me.. I would be like 'WTF!! This isn't a ZC or Dxx" before it even left the engine place.


Well since your still bent on keeping the engine. Hook up the MPFI and see what happens.

imported_loudsubz

tune it like your tuned b16

imported_kIeRaN

i would take it back, but i dont understand why u never just looked at the block and read the engine code after seeing that it was a carburated motor.

imported_Gatsby

I donno man... I saw the 16Valve valve cover, and I guess that tricked me... I had never heared of a 1.3 Liter... I thought the smallest displacemen D series was the D15... And the bastureds said block and the head are exactly like north american D15B7s, except that its carbed.... F@ck I should have looked at the engine code... Damn valve cover! Tricked me!!

But man! What crooks! Im gonna go back there with the car, and will leave it there and will have them drop a D15B in it. I have done my share of the work! Im not taking the f@cking motor out and back again....

imported_Gatsby

Well matt, Im sure if you had a OBD2 B16A2 engine in your OBD1 car, you would be just as proud as I am. Considering I did it in my driveway, and in the middle of the winter!!

But no, you had to take the easy way out. You just sold the Civic and bought the Lude. Me on the other hand, had to brake my ***** to get my hands on some performance. So pay up bro! Gimme my props! lol!

imported_Spiderman

lol.
Well that is if you can catch up to me after I get my K....er.

I mean.
Nothing.

imported_starboy869

If your just looking at valve covers I could sell my ITR *cough cough b16a2.

imported2nv

those are the same motors the dealership would put in your car as a replacement, there cheaper so if you paid more than $350 for the motor that would be to much.

imported_loudsubz

You will get props when I get props for doing your very first lowering spring install, member that lol PROPS !! haha I had to bust my ***** for YOU none the less

RDub99

iTrader: (1)

if you want to keep the engine, go back and at least get the difference in money between the two..

stock94block

i cant believe you didnt look at the block before you bought it.

take 'er back

imported_Gatsby

Hello again boys. So the newest update is that I fired it up, and drove it around my house... It feels very good and is nice and strong. And it kept up with my other 93 DX Coupe, which is bone stock (yes I have 3 Civics!! lol!). So I guess it all ended in a good way... And engine is very clean... So clean infact, that you wont see the oil on the dipstick! Anyhow, I guess I will stop b*tching now. lol.

imported_Gatsby

Yes Matt. I remeber that... That was... 3 years ago? or 2? I donno... But yes you did a good job. However, Swapping a 2000 SiR motor into a 93 DX is a lot more involved than that, I believe... gathering motor mouns from 3 different cars, custom wiring, cutom ECU tunning, VTEC wiring etc... And having to figure out all that on your own, while your ***** are falling off cause of the cold... Hmmm....

Anyhow, maybe I should say Matt is somewhat the pioneer in screwing around with Hondas... At least in oppose to yours truly...?

So here you go Matt, PROPS!!!