Honda Civic Performance - JDM Discussion Engine tech, forced induction, springs, shocks, brakes, tires, etc.

coldair intake vs shortram intake

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16-Jul-2005, 03:17 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ilovecivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Markham
Posts: 102
coldair intake vs shortram intake

i know cold air intake is more expensive but which one is better for gaining more horsepower..?
ilovecivic is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 03:36 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
imported_SaYjAiBaO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 1,961
holy crap this topic has been beaten to death , SEARCH first. if you can't find the answer to your question THEN post. both have their gains depending on brands, the cost difference isn't really worth it IMO. just go with whatever works.
imported_SaYjAiBaO is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 08:58 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
LEITNER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: At your moms
Posts: 2,633
short ram is isn't leagle for the street and you will get a ticket if you get caught.
LEITNER is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 09:24 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
imported_My93Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,102
Originally posted by Steve_Leitner
short ram is isn't leagle for the street and you will get a ticket if you get caught.
do cops even know what SRI is? Can they differentiate it from a CAI?
imported_My93Civic is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 09:27 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
LEITNER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: At your moms
Posts: 2,633
no airbox = ticket
LEITNER is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 09:42 AM
  #6  
Registered User
 
imported_SaYjAiBaO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 1,961
where does it say we're not allowed to have a SRI? . cops have popped my hood before and said nothing.
imported_SaYjAiBaO is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 09:48 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Cynikal.Mindset's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,881
u can get a ticket for the exposed filter element which is a "fire hazard" I've seen a few tickets like this...doesnt make much sense since carbuerated cars with the circle type filters are exposed to everything in the engine bay and to backfiring carbs dont get tickets...but perhaps they are subject to different emmissions laws and what it came with OEM etc

SRI = louder sound
CAI = better looks (imho)
Cynikal.Mindset is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 10:56 AM
  #8  
Registered User
 
Si98's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Peel Region
Posts: 683
i don't know why anyone would want to put in a SRI into their engine bay in the first place. all it does is recycle hot air back into your engine. not good.
Si98 is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 11:15 AM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Dr.K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Deep in Durham, East side
Posts: 445
THis thread will be locked by Tonight. But Cold air is better IMO. Your sucking colder air from outside teh Engine bay.
Dr.K is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 01:44 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
imported_SaYjAiBaO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 1,961
here's a big write up for you guys. i hope this ends the "oh CAI is better because it draws in cold air."

http://www.automotivetech.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3956&perpage=15&pagenum ber=1

enjoy .
imported_SaYjAiBaO is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 02:04 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
Gunmetalef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 6,315
ye but the piping still gets really warm so in the end its gonna be warm air going in anyways
Gunmetalef is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 02:08 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
imported_Joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: .......
Posts: 4,572
lock this crap already...if u want noise get one, hp from only an intake...can u really feel such a gain NO
imported_Joker is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 02:17 PM
  #13  
Registered User
 
imported_2join performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 941
Comptech Icebox is the "best". Combines the best of SRI and CAI.
imported_2join performance is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 02:21 PM
  #14  
Registered User
 
Dr.K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Deep in Durham, East side
Posts: 445
I found the Best was the Trueflow system. Uses your stock Airbox but replaces the Intake tube with a Powdercoated steel one of Bigger diameter with Smoother bend's. And I dont' care if your Intake pipe heat's up. If the Pipe's hot or not a SRI is still sucking from the engine bay. Dyno #'s mean Dick because the Car is not moving and there's fans blowing in/around the car.
Dr.K is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 02:34 PM
  #15  
Registered User
 
imported_SaYjAiBaO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 1,961
oh quit be ignorant, it's your word vs. proven dyno charts and first hand experience on both brand name sri's and cai's. air does circulate under the hood when the car is operating believe it or not. cai can suck in hot air as well. the longer piping means more of it is heated which means more heat transfer. BOTH have their advantages and disadvantages. for me i prefer SRI because i don't have to be so paranoid during thunderstorm and don't have to clean the filter nearly as much because of all that road dust your sucking onto your filter. btw when you say best, is that based on what you "feel" or what?
imported_SaYjAiBaO is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 02:49 PM
  #16  
Registered User
 
Dr.K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Deep in Durham, East side
Posts: 445
Why Am I ignorant?. Ive tried them All. And the AEM V2 made almost Identicle power on that B20 with a Slight Bump in Midrange. I jsut read the Link you sent. And I didn't notice much of a Difference in a SRI on a Focus but Noticed a large difference in the Trueflow system which uses the Stock airbox(much like the Race one's shown). The K&N FIPK kit only Dyno'd a 2hp gain. We didn't dyno the Truflow so I couldn't give you a # compariason. This topic will be argued forver. Fact is a Good quality intake is better than No intake at all. Even though Im all about Cold-air's I have a SRI on my B16. And its a strange one that has a Big Air pocket before the TB. Its probably not the Most effecient but It was free with a set of Header's I bought. SRI are still good. But I find they work better with a heat shield. I know of an Intrepid with a SRI in a CRAZY Diamond Plate Box. Keep's alot of the Hot air out.
Dr.K is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 04:10 PM
  #17  
Registered User
 
Younes Si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,753
search once again...
oh ya..both do nothing but make noise
Younes Si is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 04:52 PM
  #18  
Registered User
 
imported_Thrill_House's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 2,739
You guys fail to realize that it takes power to make power, if you do a CAI on a 2004 superchaged mustang cobra then you will see gains over 10hp at the wheels, but be aware that motor is already making I believe over 300hp to the wheels. Even most 1.5 and 1.6L civics with a bunch of other boltons plus an intake still see rarely more then a few extra HP at the wheels which is barely noticable. The more power your motor is making the more it is going to gain with a proper intake, especially a built up race style motor that has had head work because its more demanding on air flow. For most civics an intake is just a noise maker and any performance you think you are gaining is probably psycological, trust me ive been there.
imported_Thrill_House is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 04:56 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
cee_mon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,707
Originally posted by Premium Dude
Comptech Icebox is the "best". Combines the best of SRI and CAI.
And cops will think it is OEM.
cee_mon is offline  
Old 16-Jul-2005, 09:00 PM
  #20  
Registered User
 
nashall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Rexdale
Posts: 1,755
best bang for the buck short air....to the looks and to gain the 3-4hp... cold air....your call is the best as ours
nashall is offline  


Quick Reply: coldair intake vs shortram intake



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:54 PM.