scarlemthug

I am going to be swapping in a Progress coilover suspension next week into my car and I am thinking of getting an Energy Suspension bushing kit to replace the rubber OEM ones. I drive the car daily and ive hear the bushing kit will make my car really stiff. Is this true and how stiff would it be on a daily basis?

bbor-imported

I have rear poly bushings on my crx. It'll make the car a bit stiffer and handle a lot better than stock..

To get good handling, you gotta somewhat give up a bit of comfort.

scarlemthug

im just worried ill install em and the ride will be unbearable?

bbarbulo

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no, also we've covered this 100 times already, please search.

punkindrublic

i've done the rear bushings in my car and its definately not unbearable... just more controlled kinda.... i'd imagine i'll notice a bigger change when doing the front

bbarbulo

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I was kidding BTW

Increased noise, harshness, vibration - yes

Increased ride stiffness - no

Lemme qualify that answer... the car will be STIFFER, but not in the up and down jolting kinda sense. Allow me to explain: the urethane is stiffer than rubber, and rubber was stiffer than the spring rate. So really the spring will still do the SAME work that it would have with rubber. Except the side to side play and general slop will be taken out, so you'll hear more of the road and as such it will also feel slightly harsher.

Now, when I consider what you plan with the car (body mods, stereo, etc.) I fail to see the purpose of running urethane? You're never gonna take advantage of it, and you'll only have more noise to drown out with dynomat, making the car ever heavier.

Pick ONE aspect of the car that you want it to shine at. Work on that. If you want sound, work on sound. If you want performance, work on that. If you want comfort, work on that.

Cuz if you want a perfectly driveable daily driver... there is NONE BETTER than a STOCK civic. Remember these words. I think they'll come into play later on (much later on).

punkindrublic

i would assume all the steering related bushing would just pick up the slack and increase steering responce then?

bbarbulo

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ya

scarlemthug

Right now yes im going for mostly looks and sound, but next year im planning on doing a swap and some other stuff . I dont plan on doing autocross or drag racing or solo 2.

I was just thinking it would be good to replace em now while the suspension is out. IF you dont feel it would be worth it then I will save the $190 and put it towards something else.

Thanks for the input guys.

bbarbulo

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mileage?

if anything, replace the ones that need replacing with new OEM bushings... or you can put it all off for about 3-4 years and do it then once you have a better idea of the direction your car will take. who knows, maybe later on you'll develop a taste for performance. when I first started out, I thought I wanted a system that would make 3 foot waves in Conestoga Lake as I drove by with my music blaring. I had one system, then another, then another... finally I just got sick of it all. I hated having the music too loud so I never actaully made use of the system.

Now I'm agian considering investing in some sound... PPI or Zapco amp, JL 8 inch subs in the rear deck, and some nice components up front. Nothing excessive... but now I look at the cost and think... why not Wilwood and some new rims??

punkindrublic

i was the same... i went from one extreme... that having a full system... to the other extreme driving around with no interior

scarlemthug

the car has 104,000km's on it

I was thinking of just replacing the OEM bushings but id much rather save the money if im just gonna buy OEM ones and put it towards say a cf hood or some teg seats or HID's.

Generally my sound system is geared towards sound quality and sounding good at all volumes. I did go excessive with the bass just for the hell of it but I doubt ill even be able to turn it up that loud as it will be mind numbing. In the end I dont think ill end up in solo 2 or autocross or anything like that. Spirited driving on empty back roads once in awhile is fine with me.

I see as people get older they get tired of the crazy bass and move towards the system that blends very well. If your looking into JL let me know as I could help you out there. I know of a couple really nice 8inch drivers that i know will do the job.

If your thinking of wilwood's, drop ed a pm (SiR_Yo) as I think he might be doing something with that soon.

bbarbulo

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I already found Wilwoods for a price that suits me... doubt anyone can beat that price.

104 kms on the car, I wouldn't replace a single bushing for your needs - save your money.

scarlemthug

Just giving you another option if you hadnt found a place to get em yet:P.

I guess ill wait a year or 2 until I swap out the brakes and engine. Thanks for the help

punkindrublic

my car just rolled over 300 000 and a lot of the bushings weren't even in bad shape...

styls255

I heard u can just take them out and the ride is better? or something.

shlammed

i have only the rear lca's done cuz of the classic seizing when changing shocks back there...felt a big differene in the ride with the rear alone..

imported_loudsubz

you wont be going anywhere without bushing lol

punkindrublic

if you were to attempt it you'd be hearing clunk clunk every bump you hit.... it would probably bust a few of the bolts that go through where the bushings should be also