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Old 18-Jun-2007, 05:12 PM
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brake time!!

I'm going to replace my front rotors/pads, they just don't stop like they used to, looking up on here alot of people see mto suggest going with Hawk pads,
I was thinking of going cross-drilled / slotted for front, would the hawk pads work well with those,

which brand for the rotors is good, somoene told me to go Roto-tech 0.0 though the reviews on these boards seem to put htem in a less then flattering light

other then brembo what else would be a good choice

also its going onto a 96-00 si using SiR front brakes(same as SI i guess :P)
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Old 18-Jun-2007, 05:48 PM
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aftermarket rotors are a waste of money. The only way to increase braking force would be to make the surface area larger. I would stick with OEM rotors or just some cheapo NAPA ones. You wont notice a difference with brembo or cross drilled... except maybe the cross drilled rotors will decrease brake life lol.
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Old 18-Jun-2007, 06:59 PM
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Quality rotors make a difference if you require their level of performance. I recommend you stick with blank rotors instead of cross-drilled or slotted. Blank rotors offer more rotor material to absorb heat, and have more surface area to grip.

For the daily driver, Brembo is a good choice. If you want to really improve your braking I suggest investing into the proper pads with a higher mu level. Some brake fluid with higher boiling points as well if you brake at the limit.

Hawk pads are decent. Not the best, but a good choice for a daily driver with a budget in mind.
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Old 18-Jun-2007, 07:55 PM
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which pads are you suggesting exactly =p?

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Quality rotors make a difference if you require their level of performance. I recommend you stick with blank rotors instead of cross-drilled or slotted. Blank rotors offer more rotor material to absorb heat, and have more surface area to grip.

For the daily driver, Brembo is a good choice. If you want to really improve your braking I suggest investing into the proper pads with a higher mu level. Some brake fluid with higher boiling points as well if you brake at the limit.

Hawk pads are decent. Not the best, but a good choice for a daily driver with a budget in mind.
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Old 18-Jun-2007, 08:03 PM
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Well I am biased towards Endless, because that is what I carry, and I carry it for a reason. They are simply the best in my opinion.

Hawk is a nice option for the streets with decent braking gains, but a bit of dust, unless you go for those ceramatallic pads, I believe thats what they are called. Carbo-tech is another fine brake manufacturer, as is Porterfield.
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Old 18-Jun-2007, 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by 2join performance
Well I am biased towards Endless, because that is what I carry, and I carry it for a reason. They are simply the best in my opinion.

Hawk is a nice option for the streets with decent braking gains, but a bit of dust, unless you go for those ceramatallic pads, I believe thats what they are called. Carbo-tech is another fine brake manufacturer, as is Porterfield.
thanks, I've sent you a pm about pricing :P
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I know both of you have said cross drilled or slotted wont help braking

no offense, but why do all of the top end sports cars prance around on cross drilled / slotted rotors, all AMG's I've seen use em, race cars even

I thought cross drilled helps cool the rotors better, while slotted helps them cut into the pads better(or was it helps get water out im not sure I forget now :P)

I can understand that more surface area = more grip but whats the point of xdrilling/slotting
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High end cars have cross-drilled or slotted rotors because:

- Cross-Drilled rotors reduce rotational mass. When these high end cars use those massive rotors, they can afford to shed some heat absorption for a reduction in weight. Many of them also use good quality rotors, so the holes are forged, not simply drilled, which does not reduce their structural integrity.

- Slotted rotors help deglaze the pads. Many folks think it helps release the gas build up, but most pads now a days have slots built into them for that purpose. Slotted rotors simply help to shave off a glazed surface should the pad be used beyond it operating temperature.

I would never recommend cross-drilled to anyone, and slotted only on a dedicated track car. For your typical street/track setup, blanks are ideal, with the correct pad combination. As long as the rotors are built to withstand the pad they are being used with.
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Old 18-Jun-2007, 09:12 PM
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bun it all slotted and or cross drilled rotors just look yummy...optionjdm has a deal gwanin for pads and rotors...its what I'm rockin and they do the job and look kinda nice
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looks like I'm going to chose functionality over looks this time, if blank rotors are better for stopping sign me up :P
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2Join, what line of Endless brake pads do you recommend for dual duty (almost 50/50) vehicles? I have Brembo blanks ready for front and back, just no pads.

June 30th lapping is near, I wouldn't mind run SiR pads again, but better braking is always welcomed I suppose .

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use sawdust and glue...lol..

it will last about 2 minutes, and will look cool when it catches on fire
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