imported_curlybandit

Getting the high pitched death scream from my brake pads and realize that it's about time that I change them. This will be the first time I'm changing them since I bought the car in Sept 05.

It's a 96 Si with no major mods, (just some intake stuff....), but I would like to get something a little better than stock. I did a search, but I haven't really found anything besides details about converting to better hardware.

So.... Suggestions? I'd also like to know where I can find them too.

Thanks.

imported_NolimtzEl

i belive green stuff is good. its made by ebc.

imported_acura88

I've got HAWK HPS and they work great. Amazing feel and stopping ability.

eurovento

For a 'mild' better than stock upgrade I wouldnt even bother with Hawk, ferodo etc; Unless you want to improve your baller status.

Just get some mintex or pbr cermaic pads.

bbarbulo

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HAWK is a good preformance pad. Also, check gatherer's website for his race car, he had some good pads on his stock brakes.

czeto

The only thing about full ceramic pads is, they have to heat up to stop good. Cold, they can be a little scary if you gotta jam 'em on quick

imported_gatherer

my website is hidden at the moment due to my being an idiot...

Anyways Go with Hawk HP+ pads on the front and new brembo blank rotors... you want the new rotors since the pads don't like rotors that have been used by a different brake pad material.

As for the rears .. Stock or the Crappy tire special is good .. if they are drums make sure they are adjusted correctly.

imported_gatherer

please note the front pads I suggest will dust up you will be cleaning your wheels regularly

imported_curlybandit

I see that I have a few options....

So where would I find the Hawk HP+'s, Mintex or PBR pads? Do any of the affiliates carry these? I assume I would find the brembo's at the same place.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how Wagner's stack up to the above? From some of the stuff I've read, they seem to be a pretty good premium pad.

Thanks again for the help.

LDX

How is HP+ for the winters? I heard HPS can get scary if it is cold.

I have a clunking sound at moderate braking from rear drum. What should I replace it with? My mechanic serviced in Fall 06 and noted that the drum is kind of warped.

czeto

HPs are fine in the winter. Donno about yer drum. I'd replace with a CDN tire one. But replace both sides.

imported_SaYjAiBaO

hp+ are fine for winter. the temperature range on them is very wide so they work good in all sorts of weather conditions. i find that my hp+ has a stronger initial bite compared to stock in cold weather conditions so there's no need to worry. you should only worry when you start heating them up good because they bite even harder and it's way easier to lock up.

bbarbulo

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I've purchased 4 different Civic drums at canadian tire, the economy ones, all 4 turned out to be warped, had two of them (BRAND NEW) machined at Carquest, and my problems were solved. Lucky for me I didn't go chasing down ghosts due to poor CT parts.

Anyways, measure your drums, if they are worn very little, go ahead and have both your rears machined, costs about $30 which is a lil cheaper than new ones, but at least you'll know you have drums that track true. Drums wear down very very very little.... so even machined ones will last 100K kms or more.

Also service the brakes, clean out all the brake dust and lube the contact points to make sure the drums don't warp again.

czeto

Sounds better!

imported_gatherer

for drums on the rear I always recommend sticking with drums .. they work better then discs and are nicely adjustable to get them to activate at the right moment.

now with that said the rear does next to none of the braking, when I hit the brakes most of the weight of the car is on the front wheels. so for the rears I'd use Brembo blank drum rotors and OEM pads.

For the winter .. HP+ require some fine tuning in your driving style.. they grip way better then stock pads when cold or hot so the problem becomes ice on the roads. if there is any you will lock up a tire if you don't have ABS or you don't know how to threashold brake.... HP+ in the winter you MUST know how to threshold brake ... knowing how to do this has saved me and slowed me down faster then cars around me... Also you will need good Winter tires if you mainly drive in toronto get ice tires since the roads are plowed well you don't need deep snow tires. the ice tires will offer the best winter grip on ice which is the main thing you have to contend with.

(also please note that none of my advice comes with any sort of warrenty. you use my advice at your own risk. my advice comes from my own experience. your experience may or may not be different)

imported_starboy869

I would have to disagree with you there. Have you ever tried driving a vehicle w/o rear brakes? and going down a nice grade hill?

LDX

This may sound stupid but is it ok to replace one drum only? I read how the drum brakes are self adjusting to make up for differences in shoe and drum materials.

imported_curlybandit

Hey guys. Hoping someone could answer my question from a few posts ago.

Where would I find the Hawk HP+'s, Mintex or PBR pads in the GTA? Do any of the affiliates carry these? I assume I would find the brembo's at the same place.

Does anyone know how Wagner Premium's stack up to the above? From some of the stuff I've read, they seem to be a pretty good premium pad.

Thanks again for the help.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

Wagner is fine for normal replacement parts. Hawk is performance aftermarket.... one will dust, the other not so much. Its up to you what you feel you NEED for your car.

As for where... pick up a damn phone. If you need the parts, start making some calls.

LDX.... the rear drums are self adjusting to a point. I wouldn't trust them to adjust totally. I set each side up by hand. As for replacing just one... depends on how bad the other side is.... I mean.... both sides SHOULD wear evenly, so if one side needs replacement so should the other. I would do both sides for sure.

That being said, doing just one side won't cause your brakes to fail or anything... it's just poor practice, but yeah I guess if you must, you could.

starboy, a vehicle with NO rear brakes is bad, but that doesn't mean that rear brakes have much braking force. They have negligible braking force... it's just that their existance and condition does direcly affect the front brakes, since they share hydraulics. Their adjustment also has an impact on vehicle dynamics while driving, if they lock up, you spin out.

imported_gatherer

yes I have... I had a brake failure lost all braking ability but got the car to the side of the road. I then inspected the car and found the issue was a leaking hardline on both the rear brakes .. I pinched those lines closed and got the car home leaving lots of distance in front of my however .. on the way home I had to take centennial parkway in Stoney creek. down hill with a loaded trailer on the back ... wasn't any different .... except for the fact that I was scared the line could fracture again and I could lose brakes again.

of course I ask you have you ever tryed to come to a stop from 80 km/h with just an emergency brake? that doesn't work worth a damn... why? because it's your rear brakes and they arn't designed to do all the stoping... the fronts do the majority of the braking 80% is the number I keep hearing....