imported_curlybandit

I just recently dropped a '00 y8 in my '96 Si with about 85,000 km's on it. I couldn't use the '95 D15b I picked up before this (long story...). Luckily I found a y8. Thanks Mike

My original had <251,000 km before I spun a rod bearing and smoked the block. I was getting a low oil light pretty consistently between 4000 and 5000 km's, right before each oil change. Guess what it was almost time for....

I was using Quaker State 5W30 Higher Mileage oil, but realize that given the high km's and oil burning of my motor, I probably should have used a higher grade like 10W30. Oh well... Live and learn.

With the exception of a cone intake, my motor is stock. I definitely enjoy opening it up for some spirited driving, but this is what lead to me blowing up my motor in the first place (reving to high in 4th....). Seeing as how I don't want to re-live that experience, and after doing some reading through some searches, I was hoping to get some advice on what type of oil and filter I should be using to help prolong the life of my motor.

I know, I know... Don't beat up on my engine so much, but sometimes I just can't help myself...

So.... Synthetic vs dino? What manufacturer? Is one oil filter better than another? What would you suggest for a stock D16y8 and an enthusiastic driver?

Curlybandit

imported_mikepasini

dude, when it comes down to it, its just a y8... stock motor on the si...

you prob spun your rod bearirng last time and realizd after your motor was empty on oil... before you go for a rip on the 401 and rip it nice and fast and rev your 3rd and 4th gear out make sure there is enough oil...

hahhaa, i don't think iit matters what you do to those motors... my y7 got way more than spirited driving on it... lol... and it finally popped and if you knew what was done with that motor ini the car youd be surprised it was still going...

just dont over rev, put man. recommeded oil, man. rec filter... synthetic is no point, just buy good oil and keep it the same (doesnt matter too much, but each oil does have slightly diff properties to it) and use the proper filter...

they whole idea between y7s and y8s is they are cheap to replace if you like "spirited" driving...

Cynikal.Mindset

basically you abused your engine and u destroyed it...its no fault of the oil or filter

imported_2join performance

I would suggest using a synthetic oil if your driving your car in a spirited fashion. There are a few good brands out there such as Royal Purple and Amsoil.
And as for the oil filter, you might want to try using the s2000 oil filter. Its a little larger then the civic filter, but fits right in. That should allow for some extra flow.
But like the other guys said, the oil, and filter alone wont keep your engine from breaking. But using quality products can definatly add that additional bit of protection.

imported_My93Civic

anything that is full synthetic and a S2000 oil filter is a good combo.

imported_curlybandit

Gee thanks Captain Obvious.....

I didn't say it was the fault of the oil or the filter. I was asking for opinions on what type of oil and filter I should be using for the motor that I have in it now.

But thanks for the enlightening contribution anyways....

Cynikal.Mindset

oil is oil and a filter is a filter...no special filter or oil is gonna help you if u tend to abuse your engine

in all my civics I never used any kind of "expensive" oil or filters...the cheaper the better on a stock puny d-series motor...but u can use whatever u like, whatever may give you "piece of mind"

chris_si98

so you redlined the tard out of a y8 motor with a known weak oil pump with 241xxxkm, buddy it doesn't matter what oil or filter you use. Use whatever's cheap. it's a d16.

imported_SilverSleeper

Just keep up with your regular maintenance (which includes checking your oil) and you should be fine. No special stuff needed, just use whatever you feel like. Though I'd stay away from Fram filters.

chris_si98

^ why

imported_Cam Stableford

Here's your filter ...
https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eao.aspx

Here's your oil ... (one of several choices)
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/tso.aspx

PM me if you want more info.

Cheers

Cam

imported_SilverSleeper

Walmart uses Fram filters. When I worked there I came across a few sites that showed pictures of oil filters that when cut open, the filter was filled with this nasty cotton like material (imagine shredded cotton ***** with other **** in it). One day I was bored and cut a few open and found a Fram filter that had the same innards.

That's why I'd never use them again.

imported_My93Civic

haha yes Fram is garbage. Check out the Bob is the Oil Guy Forums. Let me find you the exact link.

They open up all sorts of oil filters and see the construction and quality of components inside the filter, and diagnose that FRAM is garbage.

imported_My93Civic

Did you know that Wal-Marts Supertech brand of motor oil is actually pretty decent, I read this at Bob is the oil guy Forums as well. Someone tested it and the consensus is that is a pretty good motor oil (i think its still dino oil) for the price.

So if your on a budget, maybe go with that.

imported_Cam Stableford

I think many would agree that synthetic oil clearly outperforms dino oil in every function we expect of a motor oil. If you are considering synthetic, here is something to keep in mind.

Some folks will not use synthetic because of the price. You definitely get what you pay for in motor oil, and there are solid reasons why syn is more expensive than dino. Within the syn oil group, your cost and choice can be affected by your type of driving, maintenance habits, and expectations.

I am naturally inclined to always recommend the "top of the line" to potential Amsoil users; but that's because I'm just an "overkill" kind of guy to begin with. Amsoils top of the line product (TSO Series 2000 0W30) can be had for $12.30 or more per quart at Canadian Tire. This is a great choice if you plan on taking advantage of the extended drain intervals possible with this oil. It offers huge savings in your operating costs, and has a service life of up to 56,000 km !!! If you're the "set-it-and-forget-it" type of person, and like the idea of changing your oil just once a year, this is the perfect choice.

On the other hand, if you like the idea of synthetics, but ... will probably change your oil and filter at 5-8 k regardless ... don't blow your brains out by overspending on a product that you won't get the full benefit from. In contrast, Amsoil XL 5W30 has a service life of 12,500 km. If you go longer than normal between changes, or just forget sometimes, you've still got a good buffer and plenty of protection. XL 5W30 can be had for less. PM me for pricing. Big difference. You're still getting a great synthetic, but without the larger inital cost.

All I'm suggesting here is that a) don't dismiss using synthetics because of the price ... and b) choose an oil that fits the way you drive and your maintenance habits. No sense wasting money.

Hope this is helpful ... just food for thought.

Cheers

Cam

imported_My93Civic

One day Cam, one day I am going to try the once a year thing.

Once my Royal Purple runs out

imported_Cam Stableford

Tease

imported_starboy869

I ran royal purple in my push mower one summer. I had some left over from something else and I was too lazy to hit up a Cdn Tire for some regular oil.

imported_My93Civic

did you notice if it was smoother and did you notice if it gained lost horsepower?

imported_Cam Stableford

... dah! ... that goes without saying ...