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Old 01-May-2007, 01:38 PM
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b16a2 swap 1st gear pops out

i just got my swap done some how my 1st gears pops out..

for example when im on 1st n im slowing down because there a bump on the street its will just pops out of 1st...

any1 know wat cost this problem?

coz even dave from defcon dont know wats up wit that..

can some1 help me out..thanks..
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Old 01-May-2007, 02:08 PM
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the locking ring is probably shot....time for a new/used tranny or a rebuild.
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Old 01-May-2007, 06:45 PM
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haha dave a defcon dosen't know..lol he knows what's up he jsut dosen't want to tell you he swapped in a totasted trans for you...blocker ring = shot needs new synchro assembly
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Old 01-May-2007, 06:47 PM
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^ lol
that sucks, good luck
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Old 02-May-2007, 09:26 AM
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that one a guy told me from work..maybe i neeed a new synchro assembly...

any1 know much its gonna cost me to fix dis? or maybe i should go back to optionjdm n ask to change my tranny? but then again they said nothing wrong wit the tranny...
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Old 02-May-2007, 11:18 AM
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clearly there IS something wrong with the tranny, go back, show them and ask for a new/different tranny....ask for one with LSD for all of your troubles...lol.
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Old 02-May-2007, 11:37 AM
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yea i should ask them eh...but then again jon from optionjdm test drove the car n he said the tranny was fine...but then again yea..its pops out..so im gonna call him up n see...thanks for the help...


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clearly there IS something wrong with the tranny, go back, show them and ask for a new/different tranny....ask for one with LSD for all of your troubles...lol.
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Old 02-May-2007, 03:41 PM
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i did that alrdy...i was there friday n dave think i should change my clutch...but der no way the problem could be the clutch...
i put a lot of cash doing this swap alrdy..i dont wanna put more down...u know i mean...


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Go back to them and let them know if that is where you got everything



Unless you know this for a fact, I would suggest you don't make speculations on what Dave thought or knew.



Give them both a call, bring the car back in and have it looked over. You should have a warranty with the work and engine.
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Old 03-May-2007, 11:43 AM
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Well here is my suggestion as I have been in the exact same situation as you with my swap. Take it back to Defcon tell them exactly what the problem is. If they don't agree that they should give you a new tranny then I would get another affiliate here to look at it and get there opinion as well. If its proven that it is the tranny which I am pretty sure it is I would get Defcon to replace it with no charge to you.


Don't get it fixed at your cost just yet. If they care anything about there image here on the boards I am sure something can be worked out.
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Old 03-May-2007, 12:20 PM
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for **** sakes..

your problem is with your synchro assembly. That's it.. PERIOD.

Obviously jon from optionjdm is going to say the tranny is fine cause its probably from him and he doesnt want to fork over a new transmission.

Dave at Defcon DOES know the tranny needs to come out, he's just playing stupid and hopes you'll leave it alone. BTW, its NOT the clutch.

If defcon wants to continue to play stupid i would recommend going to another shop to confirm that it is the transmission. I would be pretty peeved off if I were you, I have heard good things from Defcon, lets hope dave and the boys live up to their name.
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Old 03-May-2007, 01:31 PM
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LOL!! I don't mean to call you all fools, but you should be careful before you begin to bash. I expected more from you guy's especially Zeeman and Chris_V2. Transmission problems, in particular problems with gears popping out can be caused by multiple symptoms.

Possibile symptoms include:

- drive shaft failure
- shifter bushings
- low transmission fluid
- clutch failure
- failed syncro spring
- poor detents

As for helping the customer, we were and are perfectly willing to help him out. **Please keep in mind and note that the motor was not purchased from us and this problem is not due to an installation problem. Aswell the customer was asked, and declined a clutch and flywheel before we installed the motor and transmission. Our work at Defcon Racing has always spoken for itself and does not need me or anyone else to defend it, however biased opinions and poor judgement can really harm someones business. I am confident that Option JDM will resolve these issues quickly and effectively.

Next time please call me before bashing (905) 709-7744

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Hey Chris,

We have sold many swaps in the past. We have taken care of any problems that have occured. We have replaced trannies that had grinds. I talked with Dave about this, and it couldn't be determined if it was the tranny. I personally drove the car through all the gears and it did not grind. I had an extensive talk with Dave and he gave me a list of possible symptons.
If the symptoms cannot be taken care of. I will have the tranmission replaced for you no problem. You can always call me at 905-305-6316. I stand by my motors and my warranty. I talked with Chris in the past before he went to see Dave, and asked him to call me if he still had any issues.

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Old 03-May-2007, 01:54 PM
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If you guys are taken care of it then why is he posting? The poster just made it seem like he was getting ripped off. that's why i was 'bashing' if you want to call it that. Either way Dave, you and I both know 8/10 its the synchros, but since its an old clutch the teeth on the clutch could be toast which could cause it popping out of gear.

goodluck to the original poster, hopefully it is the clutch, which should be obvious once you pull the trans.
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Old 03-May-2007, 02:27 PM
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WTF? what is this 8/10's BS

First of all, the clutch doesn't have teeth period. And that is not what I am reffering to. Generally if friction material is low, the clutch slips.

Secondly, there is never a good reason to bash without fully understanding the situation.

Please do not give technical advise without any real knowledge of how things work and yes I will find the problem, hopefully I won't have to pull out the transmission.


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Old 03-May-2007, 02:39 PM
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close this pls....

there's no need to be hating on dave n jon...both good guys...

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