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Old 30-Jan-2007, 11:55 PM
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if you can do the engine work yourself or have good connections id say d16 build.

If not.. swap in a b16a2 and give her hell
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Old 30-Jan-2007, 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by plzbeleiveit
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But i would love to see this car in person, it looks like a lot of people are saying "why pink?" or "thats a lot of pink" but i think in person when it is all done it will look sweet! cant wait to see it.
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Old 31-Jan-2007, 12:11 AM
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i got good connections and alot of it i wud attempt myself....didn't take shop classes for no reason. i dont want insane **** but a decent d16 wud be sick i think ...keepin the original engine in just seems kinda clean to me...i know i'll get beat from alot of cars but im not racin i just want a better pull.
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Old 05-Feb-2007, 01:14 AM
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eff d series. do a clean block build
feed it boost.
enjoy.

zeeman showed me the block tonight..all decked, cleaned, looking wicked...
forged internals ahoy...

18lbs or 20lbs of boost..hrmm...woohaw! decisions decisions.

come on honda, gimmie those bearings fast!

got everything needed thus far except one or 2 small parts..nothing major..........

just need an etest... :s
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Old 05-Feb-2007, 07:45 PM
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ordered my golden eagle oil feed adapter. no need to tap the block for the turbo oil....fresh filtered oil....gonna be so good.

no corner cut!!
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Old 05-Feb-2007, 09:07 PM
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Got any specs on the turbo?
t70??
If so that with 18-20 lbs of boost that b16 is gonna be a beast
Id love to have a built b16 with some nice head work and just rev the hell out of it
sounds like its gonna be a fun car.
The only thing i would of done different is bigger Injectors, by the end of the season youll probally agree with me
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Old 05-Feb-2007, 10:21 PM
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its a t3/t4 (not sure totally on the size).
For his whp goals the 550s will be enough.
But he already knows that he'll prolly eventually wanna run more PSI (but the stock sleeves will be his limiting factor) and will prolly sleeve another block for next season and will need to run a larger turbo/FMIC/injectors and a better manifold.
I can't wait to see this thing up and running and to have it all tuned and running nice.
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Old 06-Feb-2007, 12:28 AM
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yeah..i cant wait for the maden voyage/tuning....

next year i'll do a b18, sleeve the **** outta it, 1000cc injectors, and hit minimum 25lbs of boost.

18lbs of boost should be about right this year i think. it'll be a whole lot of fun, and i dont think people are gonna expect it from a pink del sol
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Old 12-Feb-2007, 07:47 PM
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pictures up on my first post
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Old 12-Feb-2007, 08:26 PM
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Any headwork done?

Im not trying to be sound like a dick but you should be setting a WHP goal not a PSI goal, youll make completely different #'s with different turbos. This year with your turbo and 18lbs of boost you might make (lets say) 350whp and next year youll upgrade your turbo and depending on the turbo youll make alot more at that same boost level ie 450ish with an sc61,gt35r,t3/t76, Lo 400's with a 60-1 etc... every turbo has a diff map and will be more/less efficient at diff boost levels.
Im sure you know that im just curious what you got in mind for a whp goal, then again your not 100% on the specs of your turbo so its hard to guess at the out come. But with the 550cc injectors your looking at maxing them out at lo 300whp (@stock fuel press) so that should be made at around 11-13lbs (comparing to a t3/t4 57 or 60 trim and .63 ar).
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it's 57 trim and 63 ar.

im mostly building for reliability....hence why im seeking a boost controller. most of the time, i'll probally keep it at 8lbs. as for headwork, the valves were all good. so we did new valve seals.

the headwork and more will be done the end of this year.

this is a COMPLETE car build. from junker to diamond. the body has been TOTALLY over hauled, every single bushing in the car is now urethane (NOT ONE left over), air suspension, full hand stitched custom interior with full seat rebuild also, engine build, and PILES more..every seal on the car is new also.

so, although yeah, i'd like to do more work on the head. it's more important i finish the car as it stands.

the picture of andrew i posted under the car, is wicked. heh.
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Old 12-Feb-2007, 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by brianmcgaugh
But with the 550cc injectors your looking at maxing them out at lo 300whp (@stock fuel press) so that should be made at around 11-13lbs (comparing to a t3/t4 57 or 60 trim and .63 ar).
I've personally seen a lot more than 300whp out of 550s @ stock fuel pressure and since he's using RC's and a walbro 255lph a higher than stock fuel pressure isn't an issue at all.
IMO, he'll be good for almost 400whp with those injectors.
Whats really holding him back is the turbo manifold and exhaust. From what it looked like to me it was only 2.5" and he's using a Drag manifold with the wastegate on the #1 runner.
He said something about a ramhorn manifold and 1000cc injectors, along with possibly a dart block (drools). But for now his setup is pretty damn stout, no stone left unturned.
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dart block end of this year....40lbs of boost...

you'll all see.....
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18 to 20 psi is gonna scare the **** out of you. I hope your a damn good driver cause with that kind of power you'll wrap that thing around a pole in no time. Heck 12 lbs in my boosted d can be a handfull at times. With that kind of power I'd definatly get an LSD AND a roll cage just to be safe.
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heres a few teasers from the block build
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Old 12-Feb-2007, 09:17 PM
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Ok that turbo with your injectors you probally wont be pushing 18lbs your injectors will be maxed out, maybe close if you raise your fuel press though.
You should see 300whp by ~11lbs and you should hit max DC within another few lbs of boost.
Good job on the car though, id love to see it when its done
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Old 12-Feb-2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by zeeman


I've personally seen a lot more than 300whp out of 550s @ stock fuel pressure and since he's using RC's and a walbro 255lph a higher than stock fuel pressure isn't an issue at all.
IMO, he'll be good for almost 400whp with those injectors.
Whats really holding him back is the turbo manifold and exhaust. From what it looked like to me it was only 2.5" and he's using a Drag manifold with the wastegate on the #1 runner.
He said something about a ramhorn manifold and 1000cc injectors, along with possibly a dart block (drools). But for now his setup is pretty damn stout, no stone left unturned.
Im not saying he can only make 300 out of 550's. i would say there good for 320 at stock pressure and ~380 at around 60psi (thats with a safe 80% duty cycle). close to 400 is deffinitly possible with 550's
the 2.5 exhaust is gonna hold you back, me and a buddy had almost the same setup last year except he went with a full 2.5" exhaust and i used a 3"cutout i made 300WHP @ 12psi and he made 255 @ 11psi. Both stock LS he had a 60trim .63 ar and i had the 57 trim. The gate placement and exhaust is the achellies heal of your setup but none the less its deff solid, it will make good #'s
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Old 13-Feb-2007, 12:17 AM
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i want a solid setup. nothing tooooo retarded. it's gonna be retarded enuff as it is....

those block build pictures make me moist. woot!

i have another project in my head..but...i dunno if anyone would know the answer.....

would a accord v6 engine fit into a del sol?
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Old 13-Feb-2007, 06:45 AM
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dont bother with the v6. Theres so much support for the b series that the skys the limit.
You can make 600whp in the delsol with a bseries and it probally wouldnt cost as much as making 300 with the v6.
stick on the path your on now
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yeah.... good call..but.. it would be the ONLY twin turbo v6 del sol ever. haw!

i think, rather then buying another b block this winter, imma do a dart right from the get go... then put this engine into my daily driver hatch

woohaw
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