bbarbulo

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Ok, I'm pulling my entire front susp out, complete with upper and lower a-arms, radius rod, hub, brakes.... EVERYTHING. So everything is detached, axle nut is off... the only thing holding it back is the axle splines. It's supposed to come out with a light tap of a plastic mallet, but... I've hammered, pulled, WD40'd, prayed, cried (j/k) ... nothing's worked WTF, am I missing something. Right now it's been 3 days of WD40 soaking, hammering, pulling and cursing. Is there a clip I'm forgetting to take out?? This afternoon I'm gonna dig deeper and try some new tools and methods, but I'm quite discouraged cuz this was supposed to be straight forward. Plus I kinda need the car this weekend to go to Ottawa and Shannonville. Taking it to a shop is out of the question at this point, since the susp is all taken off, held only by the axle, so even if I wanted to, I have no susp to hold the car up...so towing/driving is out of the question. It's man vs. machine

imported_My Blue Si

Bruno, it's not a good idea to pull an axle out b/c you ruin the boot on it. When I did my tranny all I did was pry it out right at the end where it attatches into the tranny. Yes it wasn't easy but if you get a good position and grip on it, it will come out in no time. So try to get one of those large pry tools who knows what it's called, and pry it towards the wheel, meaning you have the tranny to support the bar when your prying out the axle. If you have no room down there try to get a large flat head screwdriver and try prying it out with that. Give it a few bangs instead of constant force and it should come out. Your car is ten times newer than mine and your suspension has been redone so it shouldn't be too hard.

bbarbulo

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Thanks MBSi, but on the tranny side the boot is connected to the tranny housing I guess... I didn't look at it closely, but I had it supported on some 2x4s and it slipped, and the whole assembly fell and the tranny side of the axle pulled out and was hanging by the boot. I pushed it back in, felt the clip 'catch' again, and I inspected the boot *phew*, I didn't tear it. On the hub side of the axle the boot is entirely on the axle, so getting it to come out would be the easiest. I don't even know how to release the clips on the boots. I've always replaced axles as a whole assembly. In the manual, it very specifically says not to pry it. Honda-tech guys all say it should come out easily... the quest for answers continues...

imported_loudsubz

Bruno Hope this helps

imported_94EG6HB

Have you tried praying.

Why not get loudsubz copy of the Acura EL Helm's.

That might help.

Bloody little bits I hate em.

bbarbulo

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Ya:

see... I prayed Thanks for the pages... the only thing diff't is the lower ball joint is being a sissy and it turns with the nut when I try removing it. But the other end where it's attached has been removed from the chassis, so it's totally loose. I'm gonna buy an impact tomight and hit that lower ball joint with some serious hammering action
See how that will do me...

imported_94EG6HB

Wrong God perhaps.

bbarbulo

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Notice Step 13 where is says to remove the outer joint with a plastic mallet.... LIARS LOL

bbarbulo

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The Honda gods?? Buddah, Alah, Jesus, Vishnu... whom should I pray to. I thought there was one God only, so no matter who you pray to, his call forwarding all gets forwarded to the same God I was praying to the Honda gods, on my knees in front of my brake caliper wrench in one hand, WD40 in the other.

imported_My Blue Si

Sorry Bruno, what I was describing was step 12 on Loudsubz diagram, like I was saying with the pry bar to pry her out. Im bad at explaining over the net, sorry man
Good Luck though

bbarbulo

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Thanks again to MBSi and 94EG6HB I'll get it out tonight, I promise If it takes earth wind and fire...

imported_94EG6HB

imported_JookSingKid

Just keep pulling

bbarbulo

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JSK, that's a no-no internal damage can be caused to the CV joints. It's either prying or hammering out, and specifically, prying in inner, and hammering the outer. I have a new idea I'll try though... let you know tomorrow how it goes.

Honda fan

Bruno if its any help I replaced one of my axles last week and I got mine out ok but had a biatch of a time getting the new axle into the hub - i thought maybe i had the wrong part or the splines were different - what it took was some lube (no comments please!!) to get it to slide in - i think i used a bit of never seize so its a tight fit already and if its rusted - yikes - but the only think holding it in is the nut. so when you do eventually get it out make sure to use some never seize on the splines. as for the ball joint - i used a pickle fork which of course damaged the ball joint boot - cost $14 - another trip to the dealer to beg them to take the boot off a ball joint and sell it to you seperately - priceless!!! good luck

bbarbulo

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Well, for the ball joints I used a 3 prong 4" puller to prevent damage to the boot (I learned THAT lesson removing the Pitman arm on my Suzuki Samurai)... the axle nut I grinded the bent-in tab and had a guy at Goodyear hit it with an impact. My 2 foot Snap-on 3/4 inch drive just spun the wheel, and I had no one to step on the brake for me. And yes, the wheel WAS on the ground with the full weight of the car on it. Ya...I was burning rubber with my own two hands haha The ball joint nut is a bitch, and I can't torch it for fear of melting of the rubber boot and the grease inside it. So continue to WD40 it and I'll buy an impact tonight. For the axle, I plan to strip everything to the hub, and use a 7" puller to get it to budge. Good plan, eh? Hope it works. Thanks for your help everyone

imported_gatherer

it wasn't that tough to get the axles out when I helped dented move his engine ... only issue was one of the low ball joints got stuck and had to be cut out ... but the 4 axles were simple to remove .... take off the axle nut with an impact gun then take out the low ball joint nut so that the splindle can be moved out of the way then there is another bolt that holds the lower control arm in place thats a bit of a pain but it can come out ....then it's just crow bar on the place where the axle meets the tranny(there's a small gap there) and a quit pop and it's free from there then side it out ...watch out for the MTF fuild ... if I weas going to be in windsor I'd come and help you out dude ...but I don't think I'll be down there till mid to late august sometime... anyways ... you still going to shannonville and meeting me on monday afterwards cause if so I'll explain it all then

bbarbulo

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gatherer, considering my Civic is down like a fallen bird, and the Saturn is in need of a wheel bearing... Suzuki has no plates on it... haha... I may not even be going to Ottawa/Shannonville now. Thanks though Everything else came out okay, just that axle is jammed in there good. I didn't think it would be a problem either ... yet here I am

imported_loudsubz

time to get air tools Bruno. Once you go air tools you never go back. Or talk to Vas (1.8 HB) he did his swap with all hand tools hehe,) now thats what Im talkin about.

But for lazy people like me impact and air hammer are quite nice.

imported_gatherer

bbarbulo ... if there is a place for me to sleep I can pop down on sunday ....help with the car monday ... (test out the seats monday afternoon) eat all the food in your house monday evening then come back to toronto.... but I'm sure you'll have it figured out by then.......