imported_alwaysoverkill

Hey guys, i'm buying one of these to reinforce my subframe more then the Beaks kit I currently have. I'm just not sure which one to go with, looking for some feedback if anyone is running one of these.

ASR:
$180usd for the brace and hardware
$70usd for helm end-links
$20usd shipping
- I'd keep my current 22mm rear sway bar with this set-up

or

Comptech:
$399usd for the brace, 22mm 3-way adjustable sway bar and helm end-links.
- With Comptech i'd just sell my 22mm rear sway bar, Beaks kit and stock end-links.

Comptech is proven where as ASR is new. Comptech does not reinforce behind the subframe, but this is the brace used for SCCA and Comptech has re-assured me they have never seen a subframe tearout with the brace. Also the 3-way adjustability gives me slightly stiffer then 22mm as the middle setting is the same as stock 22mm OEM CTR bar

ASR does reinforce the subframe from behind but is a newer product, although its pretty strong looking.

Both work out to the same price give or take $30 since with ASR i'd just sell my CTR sway bar and stuff.

I am worried about the Beaks kit, I know it will likely hold, but i'm not willing to take the risk, so i'm going to spend the dough to ensure its done right and I never have to worry about it again.

imported_SilverSleeper

I've seen threads where there has been pull out with the beaks kit.

If you search Honda-Tech, there was a guy who did a metal stress test on both the ASR and the Comptech piece. The ASR, is physically stronger, but both will do the job as far as I am concerned.

Since you already have the bar, I would go ASR. I plan to go ASR as well and wouldn't think twice about it.

Charles (Nova Dust) has the ASR piece on his EK hatch, maybe he can shed some more insight.

imported_My93Civic

So the Beaks subframe reinforcement kit sucks?

imported_t_dot_SiR

i think the first two posts indicates its good.... and its just that going for the ASR is good enough....

imported_My93Civic

Really? Silversleeper says this and I thought he meant it meant something bad, like something ripped apart.

"I've seen threads where there has been pull out with the beaks kit. "

Is the wording "pull out" bad or good in this case?

imported_alwaysoverkill

Beaks is good as the bare minimum required for 19+ mm rear sway bar, but ASR or Comptech is bulletproof as if no way in hell your going to rip out the subframe.

I am going to auto-x my car in spring thats why i want the peace of mind knowing my subframe is safe. $250 now or $800+ later to replace the subframe...i'll take the $250 now.

But yes Beaks is good and it also depends on the amount of suspension travel too, stock means alot of suspension travel. lowered 2" with stiff rates means not that much suspension travel, so the subframe will have less forces on it.

Honda-tech shows ASR and Comptech are great while Beaks is a distant 3rd but still good.

imported_SilverSleeper

I mean full on sub frame TEAR OUT with the beaks kit. Which isn't good. The beaks is good up to a certain point I beleive, what that point is I don't know. But I'd rather have the piece of mind of the ASR or Comptech. Either one, I haven't seen tearouts with their use. Sub fram tearouts are a bitch

If you have either the comptech or ASR, they're great. I don't think you'll gain much going from one to the other unless your totally EXTREME!

imported_Thrill_House

I know I personally would not **** around when it comes to my own subframe, I would spend the extra money needed and get the ASR brace. Some things you should never, ever skimp on!

bdotdan

ASR

imported_My93Civic

Cool, ASR or Comptech it is.

But how are you gonna get the ASR where it comes from the USA from the manufacture? I don't think anyone else sells it, only ASR.

imported_SilverSleeper

That would be my question as well. Where are you getting the ASR brace from?

Nova_Dust

The owner of ASR is also on Honda-Tech as well, his name is Charleston. I bought mine straight from him. Kingmotorsports is also ASR's dealer. Mine is the race version, that can support up to 32mm sway bar. But it was a special situation that he had an extra race brace so he sold it to me for the regular brace price. Race brace is longer than regular brace.

Realtime race team also uses ASR 32mm setup. I am happy with my setup.

Btw, 32mm hollow bar has about the same strength as Mugen 26mm solid bar. It has to do with the thickness of the hollow bar; if it were thicker, it would be stiffer of course.

imported_SilverSleeper

So what do you run with your ASR setup Charles? The solid Mugen bar?

imported_alwaysoverkill

ya, just as Nova stated if I go ASR it is from Charleston on Honda-Tech. Charleston is one of the owners of ASR. All prices for ASR are direct from him including the $20usd shipping to Canada and declaring it as a gift worth $30 so as to save on duty. He seems like a good guy and definately knows his ****.

I'm going with 22mm bar as thats really enough, a 32mm hollow (even acting as a 26mm solid) is not only $240usd more shipped...its way overkill unless purely a race car.

Still unsure, but i'm leaning more towards the ASR piece

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

ASR is a good choice, but Comptech has a LOT of ... A LOT of racing seasons under their belt. Realtime/Comptech Acuras have reigned supreme in SCCA for a long time. If for no other reason, I'd do it to support their racing programme

Nova_Dust

22mm rear.

imported_alwaysoverkill

i'm going with A-Spec Racing brace, it looks pretty solid and i'll just keep my CTR bar to use with it.

A-Spec Racing is also involved in the Realtime racing program now with their TSX and RSX I believe.

Either way, i'm going with ASR brace, it looks just bulletproof and Charleston has been great with answering questions via PM on H-T.

I'll be ordering this week and installing as soon as it gets here

imported_My93Civic

Pics please when you can so we can all drool

imported_alwaysoverkill

haha, no prob...there won't be much to drool over...i'm most likely going to be painting it cast iron grey so its not so visable, i have no interest in the bling of a product, just the functionality of it.

for anyone else considering or looking into A-Spec Racing's brace, here is a great DIY I saw awhile ago on clubsi.com
http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.ph...07&an=0&page=2

RDub99

iTrader: (1)

awesome DIY, thanks for the link