Honda Civic Performance - JDM Discussion Engine tech, forced induction, springs, shocks, brakes, tires, etc.

Anyone do a k20 into an EK yet?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-Oct-2005, 07:48 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_Team Rukus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Moon
Posts: 8,921
Anyone do a k20 into an EK yet?

just wondering if anyone here put a k series motor into an ek yet?
if so how was the install? who did it? how long did it take? is everything in 100 percent working order? where did you buy all the parts for the swap other then the motor tranny ecu and wire harness itself.


right now here are the specs for my car.
2000 civic hatch
k20a (from a jdm type r)(ready to be picked up upon answer of my questions)


just trying to see if its worth the extra time spent and money spent to do the swap myself or should I have it done professionaly. I did call Defcon and they havent done a k20 into anything but an EM so far. And Dave isnt sure as to how much time/money it would cost to do it as of yet atleast until he does the Dc2 that is supposed to happen in the winter which is too long for me. N1 auto said they can do it but they are too busy at the moment. those are pretty much the only shops that I would show my car to because of what it is.

I already read up on k20 forums and already know what is required for the swap but then again all that is just theory when it gets to practical its a whole differnt story and I dont want to get stuck at something and not be able to finish the swap immediately.

anyone here have any help?

thanks
imported_Team Rukus is offline  
Old 01-Oct-2005, 08:37 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
imported_Torrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Stoney Creek, Ontario
Posts: 3,657
Jay, msg me on msn when you can and we'll talk about this issue....
imported_Torrey is offline  
Old 01-Oct-2005, 09:00 PM
  #3  
-- site donator --
 
DumbasSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 6,647
There was one in the classifieds recently. Maybe try contacting the owner.
DumbasSi is offline  
Old 01-Oct-2005, 09:43 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
Younes Si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,753
Damn Team Rukus can't wait to see it if you decide on doing this project
Younes Si is offline  
Old 01-Oct-2005, 10:38 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
chris_si98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,176
IMO, i wouldn't spring the 5000+ for a k20. Even though I would absouletly LOVE to have a k-series swap, I wouldn't spend that much money on it. I would much rather get a b18c1 or c5 and get proper bolt ons with the extra cash I saved. But, by all means get the k-swap if you can afford it. But you have to show all of us once you get it done!
chris_si98 is offline  
Old 02-Oct-2005, 06:20 PM
  #6  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_Team Rukus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Moon
Posts: 8,921
Originally posted by DumbasSi
There was one in the classifieds recently. Maybe try contacting the owner.
I already have the motor lined up ready to go in.
my only issue is getting everything for the swap itself.
and yes i saw that post aswell thanks
imported_Team Rukus is offline  
Old 02-Oct-2005, 06:21 PM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_Team Rukus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Moon
Posts: 8,921
Originally posted by Younes Si
Damn Team Rukus can't wait to see it if you decide on doing this project
imported_Team Rukus is offline  
Old 02-Oct-2005, 06:25 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_Team Rukus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Moon
Posts: 8,921
Originally posted by chris_si98
IMO, i wouldn't spring the 5000+ for a k20. Even though I would absouletly LOVE to have a k-series swap, I wouldn't spend that much money on it. I would much rather get a b18c1 or c5 and get proper bolt ons with the extra cash I saved. But, by all means get the k-swap if you can afford it. But you have to show all of us once you get it done!
true enough.
the way i see it b series is out dated now. the ek now is 3 generations old now and its time for a major upgrade.
beside no amount of bolt on's from the money you save compared to a k20 will make the same amount or more then the k from a b18c5.

that is assuming your spending 4500 for a b18c5 plus labour which will hit about 5500 atleast.


if i were to do the k20 myself i can see a 7 thousand dollar budget easily.



so anyone here able to answer any of my questions? anyone do one yet?
imported_Team Rukus is offline  
Old 02-Oct-2005, 07:48 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
imported_loudsubz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Mississauga West Side
Posts: 11,206
Originally posted by Team Rukus


beside no amount of bolt on's from the money you save compared to a k20 will make the same amount or more then the k from a b18c5.

I woulnd't go that far.. Ive seen some b18c5 close to 200whp with bolt ons

Thing is when you do this K swap your not stock anymore since you need a custom header and gotta run an intake etc

but even with that setup Id suspect around 200whp stock

Theres big threads on honda tech with lots of info, why not check there
imported_loudsubz is offline  
Old 02-Oct-2005, 07:54 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Nova_Dust's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ontario
Posts: 18,367
Jay, have you tried to ask these questions on K20.org? You might have but on Honda-Tech, there are a couple guys that have K20 in their EK hatch already (Jon V is one of them, also that midori hatch, EKmoney or something like that).

I am sure you know what is involved for the swap, parts are readily available and there shouldn't be any shortage for any of them. If a B series into EK is about 500 (labour only) then I think double that should be fair for a K, provided you have all the parts ready and there won't be any extra works (other than the shifter thing).

Do it, I don't see why not. As long as the funding allows you. Good stuff man.
Nova_Dust is offline  
Old 02-Oct-2005, 09:16 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
imported_mugenpowered's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: North York
Posts: 1,148
Originally posted by Nova_Dust
Do it, I don't see why not. As long as the funding allows you. Good stuff man.
Ya, if you decide to do that then WOW! All I can say is that it would be incredible. Definitely do it if you can. I have a friend who always talks about k20a.org, I'm sure someone on there could let you know about it because chances are there is someone with an ek.
imported_mugenpowered is offline  
Old 02-Oct-2005, 09:29 PM
  #12  
Double_B
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
There was a huge write up on the swap in an EK hatch in SCC magazine (I have the issue) They go through step by step what is needed. If you want to borrow it, give me a shout.
 
Old 02-Oct-2005, 10:03 PM
  #13  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_Team Rukus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Moon
Posts: 8,921
thanks charles and yes i wouldnt mind taking a look at it brian.
i will pm you.

as for matt i didnt mean like any type of bolt on i meant anytype of bolt on that you can buy with the money that would be left over from compared to the k and the c5. there is only like 1500 difference with that you can buy intake header and exhaust basically only and that is good parts no ractive crap lol.

charles i was about to ask the guys on k20 but they arent sometimes the greatest bunch. you see no one that i read up on has done a thorough swap post they all do a touch here and touch there kinda post and its all over the place for the tiny information and its hard to find those sometimes.
imported_Team Rukus is offline  
Old 02-Oct-2005, 10:05 PM
  #14  
Double_B
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Then you need to see this write up Jay. They got two write ups, on the car itself after the swap with the usual pics, then the next write up on how to go about doing the swap, what you need etc.......I will look for it tonight.
 
Old 02-Oct-2005, 10:20 PM
  #15  
Double_B
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Oh yeah, the EK they did with the K20 was also turboed!
 
Old 02-Oct-2005, 10:46 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Nova_Dust's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ontario
Posts: 18,367
I think Honda-Tuning has an issue on EK with K series swap too.
Nova_Dust is offline  
Old 03-Oct-2005, 08:32 AM
  #17  
Registered User
 
imported_GoldBadge's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 3,474
Hasport has a K24 JRSC'd CRX. 300 hp and they had to cut a square out of the hood in order to close it.
imported_GoldBadge is offline  
Old 03-Oct-2005, 11:05 AM
  #18  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_Team Rukus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Moon
Posts: 8,921
with the ef and the ek the install is really hard compared to the eg and ek. clearance is one of the main problems (between the valve cover and the hood and then betwee the floor and oil pan)
imported_Team Rukus is offline  
Old 03-Oct-2005, 11:08 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
imported_SilverSleeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Streetsville/ Hamilton
Posts: 2,877
Originally posted by GoldBadge
Hasport has a K24 JRSC'd CRX. 300 hp and they had to cut a square out of the hood in order to close it.

Keep in mind the K24 is out of the TSX and is a taller deck motor. So if hood clearance is a concern, you'd be better of with a K20 (like you have already).
imported_SilverSleeper is offline  
Old 03-Oct-2005, 11:09 AM
  #20  
Registered User
 
imported_GoldBadge's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 3,474
Originally posted by Team Rukus
with the ef and the ek the install is really hard compared to the eg and ek. clearance is one of the main problems (between the valve cover and the hood and then betwee the floor and oil pan)
By floow you mean ground, right?

I saw a K20 eg in H-T and it looked like the tranny was like 3 inches off the ground.
imported_GoldBadge is offline  


Quick Reply: Anyone do a k20 into an EK yet?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:21 AM.