bbarbulo

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did you buy the springs brand new?

xenon_194

No, they were used for 2,000km, the guy didn't like the drop.

imported_gatherer

hmmm could they possibly been cut to "increase" the drop....

xenon_194

I doubt it, 1) the drop was exactly what I expected 2) there weren't any signs of the spring being cut.

Is there a sure def way of telling?

bbarbulo

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just by the finish at the end of the coils. One end is ground smooth while the other end is like a shear... like it's broken off. I would be inclined to think these springs were chopped. The difference between the rear and the front is drastic, which I know from personal experience not to be the case with Eibach.

xenon_194

There is a slight difference in the height b/w the front and back (1.5 front, 1.3 rear). I don't how dramatic the .2 difference makes, but my buddies Saturn (with Eibach Pro-Kit) has a pretty big difference between his front and back. Here are some fuzzy pictures I took b4 installing last year.





Here is a picture of a Saturn on Pro Kit (there is also a difference of only .2 or so inches as well. His kit was purchased brand new). I know its a Saturn, but this is the only picture I had and I knew what was on it.


picture courtesy of dazz_sc1

bbarbulo

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My Saturn also sits on Eibach Pro-Kit... Saturns have a narrow rear track that throws off the look (esp on puny stock tires )

Anyways, the top of your springs are supposed to be... ****, I know I shouldn't say this, simply cuz I know I've seen pics of springs that were different... but I'm 99% sure that on Civic applications the top of the spring is supposed to be ground flat, esp on Eibach. Plus your front drop looks way lower than 1.5"... did you measure it? Looks like 2" or more. My Civic on 2.5" lowering springs by Suspension Techniques sat just about that low.

xenon_194

Yeah Satty's have that stance from the start, soo....

I dunno, from the pic you can't really tell, but it does have that flat part on the top, maybe not as much as thought?Anyhow, I realized those pics were for the rear ones not the front, I guess I wasn't bothered to take pics of the front springs.

Also, I did measure, it was approx 1.7 drop, but this is after they setteled in, and I've heard Eibach's are known to settle.

dazz_sc1

yeah u dont need to tell me saturns have a narrow track... but my car is definitely sitting lower on the front...

but when i had 17s on my car it sat perfectly even front and back... which kinda makes me wonder...

Cynikal.Mindset

that drop looks like sportlines, not no pro-kit...my car is on sportlines and the drop is very similar to yours bro...I dont rub though

maybe the dude didnt like the drop cuz it was too much...and arent pro-kits more progressivly wound than that? those look linear almost like race springs

xenon_194

the part number on them is for pro-kits. I dunno why it would appear like that, its not that low, maybe pictures are making it so? As for the pics of the springs, those are the rear ones, the front are more tightly coiled.

imported_D dot T

That front drop is like mine about 1.75" but that back is higher than mine tho. Mine sits lower 1.5" but I still don't see how you can rub??? Mine is same height and no rub at all with stock tires. The part number does match for EK civic, right? What car were they are before anyway? I think maybe the front springs have gone week or something, does front end bounce a lot?

dazz_sc1

eibachs arent supposed to settle... otherwise their 10 year or whatever warantee would come into effect...

bbarbulo

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Eibach definitely settles!! but it takes about 3-4 years so it's gradual. You don't even notice it.

imported_ITK

check your lower ball joints..... that migt be the problem with the rubbing.....

xenon_194

Yeah, I noticed a 1.7 drop or so, but I've heard that Eibach does settle in a little bit and you don't get 1.5 Exactly. However, the back didn't drop as much,

The springs were on an Acura EL b4.

No, the car doesn't bounce at all, the ride actually is great and comfortable.

If they have gone weak, would one be able to talk to Eibach about this?

xenon_194

What could be the problem with the lower ball joints. Do they do bad that fast, like on a car 5 years old? How would I check and what can be done about it?

xenon_194

Why do they state that and if they do settle, can you get replacements?

imported_gatherer

your springs have been cut. period.

according to this picture (the kit on their website)



if you look at the top of the spring it's flat ... look at the top of your spring it's not... I'll save a copy of the picture and circle the area in question

xenon_194

I"m pretty sure they are not cut, there is a flat part on the springs, just not as clearly visible with those pictures since the pics are realy fuzzy. Also, the pics Eibach advertises, isn't necessarily Civic springs......