For all the ZC lovers....
#101
wow I actually wasted that much time reading it...
when I was first looking for a car I was thinking heavily about a 4th gen and doing a ZC swap on it.....
why?
simple it was cheap .... 350 is what the average price was I found when looking into this a year ago
anyways too much in thread fighting happening so I ain't saying more then this one post
most of the dudes I track race with had B series swaps done ... a lot of hada was all about the B series... well they've all gone back tot he ittle D series engines why? well a few reasons:
1) better classing for the competitions
2) way more reliable even after being built up...(debateable but the tread is there with in the group in terms of blow engines)
3) way way way cheaper to replace if engine goes boom so that leads to way way way more experimentation
4) the 1/4 mile has no curves we race on tracks with curves a D series engine is closer in wieght to what the stock suspension was built for
the reasons are sound ... if you want a good system stick to the D series it will make you happy and be cheaper to replace when things go boom... (which we haven't seen happen yet in the race prepped D's in the HADA club)
also notice throughout those pages this is my first post ... man I must be super busy today
when I was first looking for a car I was thinking heavily about a 4th gen and doing a ZC swap on it.....
why?
simple it was cheap .... 350 is what the average price was I found when looking into this a year ago
anyways too much in thread fighting happening so I ain't saying more then this one post
most of the dudes I track race with had B series swaps done ... a lot of hada was all about the B series... well they've all gone back tot he ittle D series engines why? well a few reasons:
1) better classing for the competitions
2) way more reliable even after being built up...(debateable but the tread is there with in the group in terms of blow engines)
3) way way way cheaper to replace if engine goes boom so that leads to way way way more experimentation
4) the 1/4 mile has no curves we race on tracks with curves a D series engine is closer in wieght to what the stock suspension was built for
the reasons are sound ... if you want a good system stick to the D series it will make you happy and be cheaper to replace when things go boom... (which we haven't seen happen yet in the race prepped D's in the HADA club)
also notice throughout those pages this is my first post ... man I must be super busy today
#106
Gosh this thread is a fast developer, eh? Faster then F&F.
Toronto Pimp, you don't know people, and people don't know you. Some guys may be laughing at you or whatever, but that doesn't mean you really work at a crappy job and live in a slum. If you are really 21 and make 57G a year, hey, that's great. You are getting off life a little better then the rest of us.
That's super.
You have some education status, and you sure have done quite well to obtain those degrees/certs in 2 or 3 years. So I am gonna say you are a smart young man, with a big future ahead of you. But you gotta live your life with a cheerful attitude. You can be defensive but when an argument can be carried both ways (ie. which engine is better then the other) it is all about personal taste and whatnot. Let people say what they way, but also, try to be not so offensive and use your words selectively.
For a Gov. empolyee, I hope your attitude can be a little more positive then that. Sure Gov. pays better and has a better holiday system and other benefits, but that's definitely something you should not be taking advantages of.
I like to lay back low and sorta hide behind the scene (except when I feel like to make an *** out of myself and make a joke about me so others can laugh). You don't need to let people know how much you make and where you work. Well, we sorta know where some people work because there were threads about working location but that doesn't mean we need to tell people how much we make so you could get more respect. I would respect you the exact same way whether you work at McDonald making min. wage, or work at IBM Lab pulling 70G a year. Money and job don't matter when you have the right attitude. With less money, you may be limited to certain things such as buying expensive items or go on holidays or living in a better neighbourhood but that doesn't make you any less then other people. Same thing goes for making a **** load of cash. It doesn't make you god, either.
So relax. I am sure you know something that we don't know. So share your ideas and learn from others. Aight my brother?
So much for being offtopic... well, I know nothing about ZC engines, but I am gonna keep my D16 for as long as I could.
Toronto Pimp, you don't know people, and people don't know you. Some guys may be laughing at you or whatever, but that doesn't mean you really work at a crappy job and live in a slum. If you are really 21 and make 57G a year, hey, that's great. You are getting off life a little better then the rest of us.
That's super.
You have some education status, and you sure have done quite well to obtain those degrees/certs in 2 or 3 years. So I am gonna say you are a smart young man, with a big future ahead of you. But you gotta live your life with a cheerful attitude. You can be defensive but when an argument can be carried both ways (ie. which engine is better then the other) it is all about personal taste and whatnot. Let people say what they way, but also, try to be not so offensive and use your words selectively.
For a Gov. empolyee, I hope your attitude can be a little more positive then that. Sure Gov. pays better and has a better holiday system and other benefits, but that's definitely something you should not be taking advantages of.
I like to lay back low and sorta hide behind the scene (except when I feel like to make an *** out of myself and make a joke about me so others can laugh). You don't need to let people know how much you make and where you work. Well, we sorta know where some people work because there were threads about working location but that doesn't mean we need to tell people how much we make so you could get more respect. I would respect you the exact same way whether you work at McDonald making min. wage, or work at IBM Lab pulling 70G a year. Money and job don't matter when you have the right attitude. With less money, you may be limited to certain things such as buying expensive items or go on holidays or living in a better neighbourhood but that doesn't make you any less then other people. Same thing goes for making a **** load of cash. It doesn't make you god, either.
So relax. I am sure you know something that we don't know. So share your ideas and learn from others. Aight my brother?
So much for being offtopic... well, I know nothing about ZC engines, but I am gonna keep my D16 for as long as I could.
#107
and now all is silent in TCC land........
So the IP address...
Search results for: 192.75.68.254
OrgName: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
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Address: National Water Research Institute, Environment Canada
Address: 867 Lakesore Road, PO Box 5050
City: Burlington
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Comment:
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TechHandle: CP161-ARIN
TechName: Pulley, Clint
TechPhone: +1-905-336-4930
TechEmail: Clint.Pulley@cciw.ca
OrgTechHandle: CP161-ARIN
OrgTechName: Pulley, Clint
OrgTechPhone: +1-905-336-4930
OrgTechEmail: Clint.Pulley@cciw.ca
Unfortunately we have yet to see the attachment with the pay stub...
So the IP address...
Search results for: 192.75.68.254
OrgName: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
OrgID: CCIW
Address: National Water Research Institute, Environment Canada
Address: 867 Lakesore Road, PO Box 5050
City: Burlington
StateProv: ON
PostalCode: L7R-4A6
Country: CA
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CIDR: 192.75.68.0/24
NetName: CCIW-NET
NetHandle: NET-192-75-68-0-1
Parent: NET-192-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: GARM.CCIW.CA
NameServer: ULLE.CCIW.CA
NameServer: LOKI.CCIW.CA
Comment:
RegDate: 1991-01-16
Updated: 2002-09-04
TechHandle: CP161-ARIN
TechName: Pulley, Clint
TechPhone: +1-905-336-4930
TechEmail: Clint.Pulley@cciw.ca
OrgTechHandle: CP161-ARIN
OrgTechName: Pulley, Clint
OrgTechPhone: +1-905-336-4930
OrgTechEmail: Clint.Pulley@cciw.ca
Unfortunately we have yet to see the attachment with the pay stub...
#108
Originally posted by toronto pimp
I could afford to get something nice if i put my mind to it and saved money...but right now while im paying off the last of my osap, my sleeper is good enough for me.
I could afford to get something nice if i put my mind to it and saved money...but right now while im paying off the last of my osap, my sleeper is good enough for me.
Almost $60 G's a year, right?
OSAP loan not paid off yet, right?
You can afford to get something nice if you put your mind to it, right?
Gee, if your making THAT kind of $$'s, then your osap would of been paid off in 1/2 a year or less. As for the nice car, good excuse............(put your mind to it).
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO MANAGE YOR MONEY.......if you did, the loan would be gone.......you'd have a nice car, and you wouldn't be living in your parents basement wacking off to online ****.
Go away little boy............... go play in traffic.
(why oh why did I waste my time reading all those posts)
#110
Originally posted by toronto pimp
I'm not trying to prove myself...I'm defending myself when people say **** like I scrape **** off the floor in my slum.
I'm not trying to prove myself...I'm defending myself when people say **** like I scrape **** off the floor in my slum.
"my slum"
So you are agree that you live in a slum?
Like I said.......a waste of my time reading this thread.
Arguing on the internet is like entering a race at the special olympics.......even if you win, you're still retarded.
#112
Pulovr - you're 100% on the money. I just spent 10 mins reading through this whole thread. EEEEEEsssssshhhhh!
There are merits to both avenues (ZC or B Series). Lets just leave it at that.
Peace to all..
J.C.:-)
There are merits to both avenues (ZC or B Series). Lets just leave it at that.
Peace to all..
J.C.:-)
#113
Originally posted by PULOVR
Arguing on the internet is like entering a race at the special olympics.......even if you win, you're still retarded.
Arguing on the internet is like entering a race at the special olympics.......even if you win, you're still retarded.
HAHA, Ilove that one, I had to use it a few times at Honda Acura.net before i said wow there no hope for these people and found TCC Lost of good people here, with proper more mature ways of arguing their points, lets keep it that way
#117
For all of u bashing the zc, i have had one in my car for 3 years now with no problems, i have driven a crx with a b16 and the zc holds its own and has more low end torque , i have had my zc rebuilt recently with Je pistons ,Crower rods to handle boost with hopefully will be installed this coming week, and from researching for almost 2 years now i think the zc is perfect for boosting.in my experence with the zc has been nothing but good
#119
Originally posted by ZCcrx
i have driven a crx with a b16 and the zc holds its own and has more low end torque
i have driven a crx with a b16 and the zc holds its own and has more low end torque
I agree more low end torque.
#120
now i see why this thread got so big
Pimp.............. quit trying to start **** unless you have the ***** to come to a meet and say it to someones face.
as for the whole zc vs B16 debate
zc's are peppy for a $350 engine.......... they are definatly overlooked when people are thinking of a swap
B16's may be the " meat and potatoes " of honda engines...... but at the same time, theres no power until your vtec kicks around 4700 ish
they're both great engines, just depends on what your needs are
Pimp.............. quit trying to start **** unless you have the ***** to come to a meet and say it to someones face.
as for the whole zc vs B16 debate
zc's are peppy for a $350 engine.......... they are definatly overlooked when people are thinking of a swap
B16's may be the " meat and potatoes " of honda engines...... but at the same time, theres no power until your vtec kicks around 4700 ish
they're both great engines, just depends on what your needs are