heels1983

i was wondering what the most reliable way to make 250-300whp in my 94 civic. i want lots of power but reliability is almost as important. i do a fair amount of driving and it would be my every day car for the summer. there isnt really a budget but a smaller price would be a better price for me. i was even thinking of going as far as internal and clutch upgrades and what not so i wouldnt be pushing the stock parts.

aslo if im going to turbo would it make any sense to get an itr and turbo that with the already high compression it has or just turbo a gsr. because if i do i would want to upgrade the internals for more reliability. so i guess im just wondering if it would be a waste of money for the itr.

thanks again

bbarbulo

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you have $10K? If not then

imported_b16turbohatch

this has been covered soooooooooooo many times before but i guess i will post again.


listen, if you want 2500-300whp reliably the u will have to turbo. you should use the gsr and build the bottom end (t-top it, rods, low comp pistons, rings and so on). piece together a turbo kit or buy one complete slap it on go, to the dyno, spend lots of money on tuning and there u have 250-300whp in your car.


NOW my problem with the whole thing is. (my opinion only, considering I DON'T know you nor know how you drive nor your experience driving)

I personally think u should do the gsr swap, drive on that for a while and get used to the added power. then after u feel comfortable with that then u build the motor, and throw on the turbo kit, tune it for 6-7psi. and get used to that should be around the 230-250ish whp mark. then tune it again at say 14-15-16 psi or so and you will have over 300whp with good tuning and you will be more prepared on how to drive that much hp.

or u can build your ls motor and turbo that.

i get mad at people who think they can ahndle 250-300whp in a civic. cuz i'll be honest with you its quite a handfull.

this is all just MY opinion and others will give theres and please do a bunch of research before you do this.

HAPPY

You want that much power and you "may even" consider upgrade internals and clutch...bahahaha...how else did you think you were going to do it.

Google it up and read, read, read

bbarbulo

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bahahahahaha

that's classic

Chigga1

holy smokes.....

even 300HP at the flywheels is good enough for me!
once u talk about pushing that amounts to your front wheels.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

scott newman

Go out and find a dealership that sells fast cars. For everyday driving find a Subaru STI or an Audi S4 stock will make you smile everyday. Like BB said, you are gonna drop 10gs all day long. There are only a few cars with that kind of hp that can drive everyday all day.

imported_TURBO

I would stick with the D16Z6 Slammer, boost it on stock internals and supporting mods you should grab up between 180-230 to the wheels with 8-12PSI, REALLY depending on the tune.

Or spend a couple of bucks rebuild the D with some forged rods etc..... and be good for 300 to the wheels with more boost.

Oh yeah, that ain't gonna cost nowhere near 10G no matter what route you take.

DarkKid

21 yrs old... u r too yonge to drive a 300whp front wheel drive car.

dingus88

it's called massive turbo (fp green, smc61, full garrett etc) good tuning on it, 250 whp can be had on a stock block b series (b16 b18 etc) you just need the turbo and tuning. I'd say you dont' have enough money to make that kind of hp, but a good start is a b series swap or jsut a sick turbo kit for your d16 ie a turbo that is good for 300-400 hp.

heels1983

thanks for all the smart as* remarks. since when does hp have anything to do with age. do you know my driving history? do you know how much money i have. i just had a question. all i wanted was an answer to my question. i didnt ask for a bunch of smart as* cocky remarks.

dingus88

dude settle I jsut told you what you needed and it can be done on stock block 250-270 whp but it's pushing it.

imported_TURBO

Yeah you can put a huge FP green on there but they have went 10's in DSM's, I think it may be a little too much for the d16

You want "area under the graph" forget the peak power and ****ty driveability you would get with a massive turbo.

270whp is not feasible for a stock D16 (can be done) but certaintly no reliability IMO.

Nova_Dust

First of all, props to you for setting a goal.

Turbo D16 for that kinda power, doable for sure. There are dudes that push 500 ~ 600 WHP on a D16. Not stock of course but that's on the extreme side.

Package your turbo setup (if you want FI), get a LSD, decent tires, decent brakes, decent suspension, decent gear ratios and find a good shop to tune that engine. Whether it will cost 10G or not, that will depend on your research data.

bbarbulo

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Considering an Edelbrock turbo kit in Canada retails for $5-6K alone, plus this kid is talking about a GSR swap... ummm yeah, I think he could easily spend $10K. And we haven't even talked clutch, Quaife, axles, or internals at all.

bbarbulo

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Please... allow ME to set a goal... I want to be a male supermodel.



there is a difference between a goal and wishful thinking. And THIS my friends is wishful thinking. Not because it's impossible.... NOOO, it's actually quite possible. Rather, the person undertaking the task is a dumbass. Failure is certain.

Nova_Dust

You gotta start somewhere, no?

Bashing the guy doesn't mean nor will it do anything. I have no reason to bash on someone's idea, goal or even a wishful thinking.

imported_Cablerat

Good luck!

bbarbulo

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yeah, in his case google seems like a good place to start

sorry Charles, you're too nice. I can't stand freeloaders. Someone who asks yet has nothing to offer in return.

spracingsports

i think he meant "nowhere near 10 g's" as in WELL over 10 g's