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Old 14-Oct-2003, 04:26 AM
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Lightbulb How to DRIFT a Civic.... !!!

Well, I couldn't really figure this out. It sounds kindda dangerous too...

Does anybody have a translation to this?

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FF Drift (Front Wheel Drive Drift)
The E-brake as well as steering and braking techniques must be used to balance the car through a corner. (note: the E-brake is the main technique used to balance the drift).


Emergency Brake Drift
This technique is very basic, pull the E-Brake or (side brake) to induce rear traction loss and balance drift through steering and throttle play. (note: this can also be used to correct errors or fine tune drift angles).

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hmmmmmm.........

Me don't understand this English.... Some one translate please?
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Old 14-Oct-2003, 07:01 AM
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you can't properly drift a front wheel drive car... you can just make the rear end slide around....
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Old 14-Oct-2003, 07:07 AM
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its easy, try it in the winter..only do it a few times in a big parking lot or something...if u do it allot you will start pooching wheel bearings, which are expensive...

on a slippery surface, just get the car up to speed that you feel comfortable spinning out at, cuz ull probably spinn out first try... then start a left or right turn, as soon as the car begins the turn, yank on the ebrake, and the *** end will slide out... once you get the feel for it, you can make the proper wheel adjustments and learn when the perfect time is to release the ebrake... Ive been doing it in my neighbourhood since like the first day I got my licence...lol It the easiest to learn in a RWD truck or something, cuz you just have to tromp on the gas instead of useing the ebrake...

Honestly tho I think everyone should learn how to controll their car in a drift, its saved my *** a few times... even slideing through a turn in the winter, pop the ebrake and make the correction for the slideing oversteer...its unsafe to practice, but it makes you a safer driver once you learn the drift charecteristics of your car...

The ultimate practice place..On a frozen solid lake, its funn too
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dont do it on a dry surface, you will screw something up sice its a locked up wheel(more of a slide) drift and not a spinning wheel drift... If you learn the perfect balance between the gas and steering, you can set up frontwheel drive car a good 30ft at least before a corner...

I highly recomend you dont do it in your civic, if you have anny appretiation for it, but thats your decision... Personally I leave it for the winter beaters...
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What if you don't have a winter beater and your civic is the most "beater" car you own.
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well of course there is that option...but in the end it still cost money... civics have a pressed wheel bearing into the hub.. so the whole hub and bearing assy cost over 2 hundred per side... an old beater you can replace just the bearing for less than 50 bucks makeing it the ideal ebrake machine
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How about a ford excursion? Thats one of our other cars!
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drifting a civic using that technique is stupid.... the wheel bearing wasn't meant to take thrust loads while not rotating.

I have drifted under control in the dry, on my old Falken GRB2 tires, never once using the e-brake. It's just that the speed is a lot higher to do it in the dry, hence making it more fun. It's about weight balance, and if you don't understand that, then drifting is prolly not for you. I've stopped drifting as well.... I like my car too much for that kinda abuse.
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
I have drifted under control in the dry, on my old Falken GRB2 tires, never once using the e-brake. It's just that the speed is a lot higher to do it in the dry, hence making it more fun.
I did it on fresh pavement with my old set of cooper cobra xst's 15's yay!..lol I must admit it wasnt intentional, just took the corner way to fast, no ebrake...went into the drift at about 85-90km/hr on fresh pavement... I controlled it perfectly, and was probably one of the biggest rushes ive had in my civic, it was really loud... Id never do it again... This was after about 3 years of driving a truck, and about 1 year of owning my car... So the manuver was nothing new, but still id never do it on pavement intentioanlly with a FWD....
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
drifting a civic using that technique is stupid.... the wheel bearing wasn't meant to take thrust loads while not rotating.

I have drifted under control in the dry, on my old Falken GRB2 tires, never once using the e-brake. It's just that the speed is a lot higher to do it in the dry, hence making it more fun. It's about weight balance, and if you don't understand that, then drifting is prolly not for you. I've stopped drifting as well.... I like my car too much for that kinda abuse.
yep no e brake needed set the tire pressures right and left foot brake properly and presto...drifting .... it's easy to do ... hard to master....

(I'm living proof of that sometimes I get the rear end startring the rotation and I ussually screw up and either it just oversteers into a loop on a autocross course or I apply the gas to quickly and it corrects into a proper turn.... and there was that time I hit a curb when my back end stepped out ... but that was unexpected
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I agree with Jason, mine drifts just fine too, just about every week-end, stiffer springs on the rear, the right tire pressures (ususally about 34 in the front and 38 in the rear on my race slicks) and a little flick of the wheel. I've managed it a few times on the streets with my 205-40-17 Yok's but that's a little too scary for me, I like to keep it in a controlled environment.

I'm looking to up my spring rates even more for next season to facilitate rotation.
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yah on the street, you are risking sliding into the curb, which can bend controll arms, and other expensive damages...pluse the fact that its considered wreckless driving, and endagering others... but in the winter time on the streets, it could happen by accident..shhhh...lol
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Originally posted by StewPiddass
I agree with Jason, mine drifts just fine too, just about every week-end, stiffer springs on the rear, the right tire pressures (ususally about 34 in the front and 38 in the rear on my race slicks) and a little flick of the wheel. I've managed it a few times on the streets with my 205-40-17 Yok's but that's a little too scary for me, I like to keep it in a controlled environment.

I'm looking to up my spring rates even more for next season to facilitate rotation.
eibach sprinsg 400 for the front 450 for the rear .... and koni yellows....
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Originally posted by BoOsTZeX
yah on the street, you are risking sliding into the curb, which can bend controll arms, and other expensive damages...pluse the fact that its considered wreckless driving, and endagering others... but in the winter time on the streets, it could happen by accident..shhhh...lol
not just winter time if you get enough oil on the ground .... grrrrr I hate cars that leak
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Al,

Where are you, I had to move two threads out of chit chat today!!!



You are slipping already.
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Old 14-Oct-2003, 02:29 PM
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remember that CRX auto-x video? that guy had some serious e-braking skills...he was flying around the pylons using e-brake like nothing.
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do you have that video ?? (or the link) .... was it a shot of inside the cockpit?? handbraking is not something I've seen around here auto-X
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I have that video saved, like 4.5mb. Unless I missed something, that CRX didn't drift at all...?
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Originally posted by BoOsTZeX
its easy, try it in the winter..only do it a few times in a big parking lot or something...if u do it allot you will start pooching wheel bearings, which are expensive...

on a slippery surface, just get the car up to speed that you feel comfortable spinning out at, cuz ull probably spinn out first try... then start a left or right turn, as soon as the car begins the turn, yank on the ebrake, and the *** end will slide out... once you get the feel for it, you can make the proper wheel adjustments and learn when the perfect time is to release the ebrake... Ive been doing it in my neighbourhood since like the first day I got my licence...lol It the easiest to learn in a RWD truck or something, cuz you just have to tromp on the gas instead of useing the ebrake...

Honestly tho I think everyone should learn how to controll their car in a drift, its saved my *** a few times... even slideing through a turn in the winter, pop the ebrake and make the correction for the slideing oversteer...its unsafe to practice, but it makes you a safer driver once you learn the drift charecteristics of your car...

The ultimate practice place..On a frozen solid lake, its funn too

ya im doing that with my shitbox mazda 323 lol its funny
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******* THIS IS WHY INSURANCE IS SO HIGH FOR GUYS
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