tdoTcOupe

save your synchros, burn your clutch

You don't use dbl clutch in a race?

I don't know how you guys do it, but this
is the way I **** around
Upshifts only I don't know what dbl clutching has
to do with downshifting

1. you don't do it of the 1st gear
2. when you shift into 2nd (if you are
racing somebody or something) the whole
point is to stay in vtec all throughout the run
so 5700 and above. you shift into second then
you're climbing at around 5500, you press the clutch
really quick and punch gas (while clutch is down),
rev it to about 7500 and dump the clutch,
then just watch as your car gets a kick
in the ***. After you did that you're already at about
6500-7000 you give it some more gas, shift into third
and repeat.

It obviously takes practice but once you master this
technique you're gonna have a little more advantage
then a guy next to you.

It does help with speed and jump (a little, but it helps)
Just save some money for an ACT or CLutchmasters for
that rainy day

SiR-Racer

ok that's not double clutching.

I'm not sure what you mean by shift to second and then press the clutch quickly while hitting the gas. Do you mean you shift to second normally and hit the clutch again? Or do you mean you are pressing the gas WHILE you are shifting to 2nd?

tdoTcOupe

1 clutch, shift into second

2 while you're gaining rpms in 2
press the clutch all the way (again),
give it gas to 7500 and dump
the clutch, repeat

you have to do it really quick, or instead
of gaining rpms you're gonna lose
maybe I can show you guyz sometime

if this is not double clutching then i don't
know what is.

Double clutching has nothing
to do with downshifting I don't know who told
you guyz that. It's rev matching.

tdoTcOupe

ok I stand corrected,
but you can still do it while racing
I find it a little help

but anyways,

this is from CSI

You use this technique so you keep your RPMs up when dropping a gear so the flywheel keeps moving, and your engine speed stays up (less of a throttle lag when you get back on the gas).

It's something like this:

1. step on clutch
2. shift from higher gear into neutral
3. get off clutch
4. give a little gas to pop your RPMs up
5. step on clutch
6. shift from neutral to lower gear
7. get off clutch, get back on gas

Practice makes perfect, and with double clutching, shifts should be smoother. This is actually an 'old' technique used when gearboxes didn't have synchros.

this disscussion is over right about now

thnx

SiR-Racer

yup that would be double clutching. i've never tried your other technique for upshifting. sounds like its pretty hard on the clutch though

Import Racer

There's one step that I leave out when doing that, which is step 3. While downshifting, I blip the throttle while in neutral, but with my foot still on the clutch.

SiR-Racer

Read my previous post. If you stay on the clutch and leave out step 3 then you arent doing anything to save your synchros. There's an explanation somewhere in here:

http://integra.vtec.net/driving/dclutch.html

Namely:

"Can you rev-match the layshaft to the transmission gears by throttle - blipping with regular single clutching? No. The layshaft is not connected to the engine while the clutch is in. Those that recommend throttle-blipping rev-matching are right that it gives a smooth transition when they let the clutch out, but it does absolutely nothing to match the layshaft and does not save your synchros any work at all. (See the way to get around this in autocrossing below.) "

imported_94EG6HB

Taking Vin Desiel a bit to serious huh....

SiR-Racer

you mean vin diesel and his "you lost the drag race cuz you didnt double clutch" line? hahaha... i dont know how that line got into the script. you would've thought SOMEONE would know something about driving...

imported_94EG6HB

Yes too many Heinkens already...

Thanks for the typo correction...