civicrydah

OK, heres the deal:

1996 Honda civic coupe Si equipped with a B20B totally gutted with a racing seat

VS

1997 Honda civic coupe Si equipped with a B16A passenger and rear seats removed.



State ur opinion on which you will think will win. Both cars are all motor.

HAPPY

Well - if you are gonna do a thread like this let's see a full mods list!!!

I'll lock it if you don't offer up the goods

civicrydah

Hey Happy:

Well i dont know what the b20b has....i dont even know if its vtec.


And about the b16....why don't u race it and see what it has???

B16 against B16...now thats always a good race.

HAPPY

When we have a track day... no problem.

Get your B20 buddy to post mods.

Now you post yours or this like speculation is going no further

civicrydah

OK ...i see how it is. That's cool if it gets locked.

And ur on for the track day!

civic_hb96

i would say it would be pretty much even stock for stock. the trq in the b20 would make up for the hp in the b16. it all depends on driver. also what tranny is the b20 using? that makes a diff also.

imported_gatherer

yes trannies would probably be a decider in this

imported_JookSingKid

IMHO

in a straightline?

B16A (higher redline means later shifts)



on a twisty course

B20 (more torque to pull it out of those turns)

imported_gatherer

I believe the challenge is the standard straight line 1/4 mile

civic_hb96

thats not necessarily the deciding factor. yes higher redline means later shifts, but the trq in the b20 will make it go through the gears faster then it comes down to top end where the b20 lacks.

there's so many things that can decide, it's really hard to tell just by typing in what everyone thinks. both motors have there advantages and disadvantages. take it to the track to make the final decision.

imported_1sicsol

B16.

As the b16 is reaching peek power at high rpm, the b20 has to shift...

b16 would then pull ahead, and even know the b20 might climb quick through rpm, the b16 is already a little bit ahead...x 4 gears=faster trap...

Also once b16 reaches 8000rpm and shifts, its STILL in vtec as long as its red lined...so it quickly rapes through the gears...

Where the b16 looses is low rpm...no torque...

b20 might pull harder at the start...

I still put the money on b16...

civicrydah

OK, now just wondering one thing...what if the b20b was a b20b vtec? Then what? Cuz he says he has a b20b , but he never mentioned if it was a vtec conversion or not. You guyz still think i can take him if he has the b20b vtec buildup?

I think it'll be a good race. 50/50 odds. Or i could be wrong and he could be serving my *** on a silver platter back to me.

Heres the latest:

B16 4 voted B16 will own a b20b's ***, give him a wedgy and rub undies with "skid marks" all over his face

AND


B20 2 voted B20 will WOAH PA the *** cheeks of the B16 and make him say "I like sweaty men with g-strings and bologne up their bum"



The decision will be made on the first day Cayuga opens (whenever that is).

civic_hb96

okay b20vtec is a different story. your b16 is gonna have a hard time breathing in the b20's dust..

imported_1sicsol

By the way it sounds hes got more then a stock b20....sounds like hes not telling you the truth...

Just ask whats been done before you get your *** handed to you..

Strip as much weight out of your car as you can....get rid of everything...

Your worst enemy is weight...

imported_SurferBoy

Now that vtec is in the picture

b20 all the way

Think about it
both have vtec

b20 = 2.0liters
b16= 1.6 liters

That's approx 400cc = much more torque

a b20b won't rape you as much as the b20z would (assuming stock internals)

as the b20z has higher compression

if this "other guy" has a vtecb20, be prepared to lose


Love to see the race if it actually happens

imported_gatherer

it's VTEC not vtech not v-tech not v-tec just VTEC......

I was also looking into the VTEC B20 and it still has a lower redline (on the honda hybrid site) the red line was something like 7200 and torque was falling quickly after 6000... just my own opinion.. but the b16 is still making power (from the dyno's I've seen) when it hit's it's red line ... b16 is still my guess....although there are still tons of factors that only the track will decide who gets there *** handed to them

imported_SurferBoy

My bad

So noted and changed

Was not totally awake yet?

90ls

a b20 vtec or non. if equiped with the right tranny, it will smoke a stock b16.

now a build b20/vtec "lots of money" theres no questions about it.. bring on the type R.

civicrydah

Bring on the Type R with my b16!!!! hehehe....lol.

We'll see who will win! Anyone on here got a type r that wants to challenge a b16?

Hey 90 ls ...i don't know much about the b20 but other ppl say it would be a close race if it were just a regular b20b.

B20b vtec or non...i'll still race civic2drcoupe first day cayuga opens.

imported_1sicsol

You never know either....
Theres so many things that go into a drag race...
If his car is faster doens mean hes going to win...
If you get a better start...