Where to purchase turbo kit parts
31-Mar-2010, 08:05 PM
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Where to purchase turbo kit parts
Looking for intercooler and piping kit...
where do you guys get this stuff for cheap?
Just shopping around to see what sources are in the area of the GTA
where do you guys get this stuff for cheap?
Just shopping around to see what sources are in the area of the GTA
19-Apr-2010, 04:08 PM
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Check the junkyard at Steeles and swells, they might have some pipes you can use.
19-Apr-2010, 08:38 PM
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How cheap is cheap? And cheap + quality don't go together.
The cheap ebay pipes are garbage if you decide to weld them. Check go-autoworks for piping and you can find an intercoolers in fs section.
The cheap ebay pipes are garbage if you decide to weld them. Check go-autoworks for piping and you can find an intercoolers in fs section.
19-Apr-2010, 11:15 PM
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We used pieces of exhaust pipe, rad hoses and stainless gear clamps on our MR2...no issues as of yet...lol
But I don't recommend that to anyone... Use good quality parts.
But I don't recommend that to anyone... Use good quality parts.
03-May-2010, 12:34 PM
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************* performance turbocharger turbo exhaust clutch
Am i retarded or are there no detailed descriptions for any of the turbo kits?
Am i retarded or are there no detailed descriptions for any of the turbo kits?
03-May-2010, 01:15 PM
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^^Yeah, they don't give you any useful info/details.
That fancy website isn't enough to convice me to buy one of their kits. lol
That fancy website isn't enough to convice me to buy one of their kits. lol
03-May-2010, 01:36 PM
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^^^ Yea i have also seen their kits and they are pretty affordable , not too cheap but also not too expensive.. However like you said , there isnt much details about their kits..
I was actually going to create a thread asking if anyone purchased their kits before and what their review was
And i do agree they have a fancy website
I was actually going to create a thread asking if anyone purchased their kits before and what their review was
And i do agree they have a fancy website
03-May-2010, 03:17 PM
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cheap chinese ebay kits are crap....even cheap "american made" kits are crap too.
When a good turbo alone costs $700-1500 how good can a "complete" kit be that costs $1000 or less?
A good turbo kit will run $2500-5000.
As for piping, cheap chinese made crap is super hard to weld (aluminium pipe is already hard enough to weld) and usually very poor quality which will break/bend quite easily under little stress. These cheap turbo kits don't come with the proper re-inforced couplers or good t-bolt clamps either.
SSautocrome, XSpower, EMUSA and JDMsport are all kits to stay away from, in my opinion, from my experiences.
I have stainless steel piping on my car, but lots of people use aluminium. Vibrant sells quality aluminium bends/pipes but they're pretty expensive....but you do get what you pay for.
When a good turbo alone costs $700-1500 how good can a "complete" kit be that costs $1000 or less?
A good turbo kit will run $2500-5000.
As for piping, cheap chinese made crap is super hard to weld (aluminium pipe is already hard enough to weld) and usually very poor quality which will break/bend quite easily under little stress. These cheap turbo kits don't come with the proper re-inforced couplers or good t-bolt clamps either.
SSautocrome, XSpower, EMUSA and JDMsport are all kits to stay away from, in my opinion, from my experiences.
I have stainless steel piping on my car, but lots of people use aluminium. Vibrant sells quality aluminium bends/pipes but they're pretty expensive....but you do get what you pay for.
03-May-2010, 04:16 PM
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We have an XSpower water to air intercooler that we've been using on our MR2 for 2-3 years now. No issues thus far...
But that's just one component. That doesn't speak for all their products or turbo kits... I didn't even know they made turbo kits.
But that's just one component. That doesn't speak for all their products or turbo kits... I didn't even know they made turbo kits.
03-May-2010, 07:21 PM
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cheap chinese ebay kits are crap....even cheap "american made" kits are crap too.
When a good turbo alone costs $700-1500 how good can a "complete" kit be that costs $1000 or less?
A good turbo kit will run $2500-5000.
As for piping, cheap chinese made crap is super hard to weld (aluminium pipe is already hard enough to weld) and usually very poor quality which will break/bend quite easily under little stress. These cheap turbo kits don't come with the proper re-inforced couplers or good t-bolt clamps either.
SSautocrome, XSpower, EMUSA and JDMsport are all kits to stay away from, in my opinion, from my experiences.
I have stainless steel piping on my car, but lots of people use aluminium. Vibrant sells quality aluminium bends/pipes but they're pretty expensive....but you do get what you pay for.
When a good turbo alone costs $700-1500 how good can a "complete" kit be that costs $1000 or less?
A good turbo kit will run $2500-5000.
As for piping, cheap chinese made crap is super hard to weld (aluminium pipe is already hard enough to weld) and usually very poor quality which will break/bend quite easily under little stress. These cheap turbo kits don't come with the proper re-inforced couplers or good t-bolt clamps either.
SSautocrome, XSpower, EMUSA and JDMsport are all kits to stay away from, in my opinion, from my experiences.
I have stainless steel piping on my car, but lots of people use aluminium. Vibrant sells quality aluminium bends/pipes but they're pretty expensive....but you do get what you pay for.
Just out of curiosity ( and i ll make sure i save it this time) what are good kits or maybe you could give us some advice on how to put together a kit with reliable parts...
I know you are a busy man but it would be awesome it you could do a write up ( sticky) about turbo kits and what to expect since you pretty much done many set ups with different kits ...
03-May-2010, 09:54 PM
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go-autoworks, full-race, AFI, peakboost, drag, spoolin performance all make solid kits from a street kit to race kit these guys offer a variety of kits to suit your needs.
The greddy kit is OK, better than those cheap ebay kits. The edelbrock kit is nice too, but expensive since it comes with an engine management solution (crappy one, but most kits don't have anything).
The greddy kit is OK, better than those cheap ebay kits. The edelbrock kit is nice too, but expensive since it comes with an engine management solution (crappy one, but most kits don't have anything).
03-May-2010, 11:38 PM
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go-autoworks, full-race, AFI, peakboost, drag, spoolin performance all make solid kits from a street kit to race kit these guys offer a variety of kits to suit your needs.
The greddy kit is OK, better than those cheap ebay kits. The edelbrock kit is nice too, but expensive since it comes with an engine management solution (crappy one, but most kits don't have anything).
The greddy kit is OK, better than those cheap ebay kits. The edelbrock kit is nice too, but expensive since it comes with an engine management solution (crappy one, but most kits don't have anything).
greedy kit is 3500 while autoworks is only 2500 ? ...
04-May-2010, 01:40 AM
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We at ************* welcome all to come by our showroom to see our "street kit" mounted on a display motor and there are always cars at our location with our kits on.
Our street kit starts at $1,395 (6mths full warranty)
We can do a custom street kit or a full custom kit.
Just let us know.
And please stay away from Xs-power / ssautochrome.
What many people don't understand is that, those two companies are the same.
Also have you heard good things about xs-power? And there is a LOT of bad things about them, more bad then good. Some of our customers have had good experiences with Xs-power (Because some of there stuff is "decent" quality made in the USA/uk, although for the most part there stuff is made in china/cheap Knock off's.) Just my opinion.....
Also they do NOT offer warranty, they do NOT have an address or Phone # on the website... (although we managed to get that info if any1 is interested lol)
Who would purchase something without knowing where the company/store is located? And with no phone #?
As for our website not having much info?
We are extremely busy, and the website should be about 90% complete in the next few weeks with customers using OUR kits.
From Honda civics - Mazda Rx-8's - Nissan Skylines - Vw's......
For reference : Our kit on a "proper tune" made 318whp @ 12psi bone stock 1989 b16, and constantly makes 300+whp on DOHC B Series motors.
1 customer with a FULLY BUILT gs-R made 534whp @ Medium boost using our complete street kit with a wastegate upgrade to Synapse and our GT35 upgrade.
On D-series Motors : Power is 200whp-260whp (stock block), 1 customer actually made 306whp on our street kit. ( Really NOT SAFE though, everything was stock aside from arp head studs and a new head gasket )
Please feel free to contact us should you have any questions.
Lastly when it comes to boost, look at what you are buying b4 hand, check for warranty, quality, fitment, reviews etc etc......
Our street kit starts at $1,395 (6mths full warranty)
We can do a custom street kit or a full custom kit.
Just let us know.
And please stay away from Xs-power / ssautochrome.
What many people don't understand is that, those two companies are the same.
Also have you heard good things about xs-power? And there is a LOT of bad things about them, more bad then good. Some of our customers have had good experiences with Xs-power (Because some of there stuff is "decent" quality made in the USA/uk, although for the most part there stuff is made in china/cheap Knock off's.) Just my opinion.....
Also they do NOT offer warranty, they do NOT have an address or Phone # on the website... (although we managed to get that info if any1 is interested lol)
Who would purchase something without knowing where the company/store is located? And with no phone #?
As for our website not having much info?
We are extremely busy, and the website should be about 90% complete in the next few weeks with customers using OUR kits.
From Honda civics - Mazda Rx-8's - Nissan Skylines - Vw's......
For reference : Our kit on a "proper tune" made 318whp @ 12psi bone stock 1989 b16, and constantly makes 300+whp on DOHC B Series motors.
1 customer with a FULLY BUILT gs-R made 534whp @ Medium boost using our complete street kit with a wastegate upgrade to Synapse and our GT35 upgrade.
On D-series Motors : Power is 200whp-260whp (stock block), 1 customer actually made 306whp on our street kit. ( Really NOT SAFE though, everything was stock aside from arp head studs and a new head gasket )
Please feel free to contact us should you have any questions.
Lastly when it comes to boost, look at what you are buying b4 hand, check for warranty, quality, fitment, reviews etc etc......
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04-May-2010, 12:37 PM
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We at ************* welcome all to come by our showroom to see our "street kit" mounted on a display motor and there are always cars at our location with our kits on.
Our street kit starts at $1,395 (6mths full warranty)
We can do a custom street kit or a full custom kit.
Just let us know.
And please stay away from Xs-power / ssautochrome.
What many people don't understand is that, those two companies are the same.
Also have you heard good things about xs-power? And there is a LOT of bad things about them, more bad then good. Some of our customers have had good experiences with Xs-power (Because some of there stuff is "decent" quality made in the USA/uk, although for the most part there stuff is made in china/cheap Knock off's.) Just my opinion.....
Also they do NOT offer warranty, they do NOT have an address or Phone # on the website... (although we managed to get that info if any1 is interested lol)
Who would purchase something without knowing where the company/store is located? And with no phone #?
As for our website not having much info?
We are extremely busy, and the website should be about 90% complete in the next few weeks with customers using OUR kits.
From Honda civics - Mazda Rx-8's - Nissan Skylines - Vw's......
For reference : Our kit on a "proper tune" made 318whp @ 12psi bone stock 1989 b16, and constantly makes 300+whp on DOHC B Series motors.
1 customer with a FULLY BUILT gs-R made 534whp @ Medium boost using our complete street kit with a wastegate upgrade to Synapse and our GT35 upgrade.
On D-series Motors : Power is 200whp-260whp (stock block), 1 customer actually made 306whp on our street kit. ( Really NOT SAFE though, everything was stock aside from arp head studs and a new head gasket )
Please feel free to contact us should you have any questions.
Lastly when it comes to boost, look at what you are buying b4 hand, check for warranty, quality, fitment, reviews etc etc......
Our street kit starts at $1,395 (6mths full warranty)
We can do a custom street kit or a full custom kit.
Just let us know.
And please stay away from Xs-power / ssautochrome.
What many people don't understand is that, those two companies are the same.
Also have you heard good things about xs-power? And there is a LOT of bad things about them, more bad then good. Some of our customers have had good experiences with Xs-power (Because some of there stuff is "decent" quality made in the USA/uk, although for the most part there stuff is made in china/cheap Knock off's.) Just my opinion.....
Also they do NOT offer warranty, they do NOT have an address or Phone # on the website... (although we managed to get that info if any1 is interested lol)
Who would purchase something without knowing where the company/store is located? And with no phone #?
As for our website not having much info?
We are extremely busy, and the website should be about 90% complete in the next few weeks with customers using OUR kits.
From Honda civics - Mazda Rx-8's - Nissan Skylines - Vw's......
For reference : Our kit on a "proper tune" made 318whp @ 12psi bone stock 1989 b16, and constantly makes 300+whp on DOHC B Series motors.
1 customer with a FULLY BUILT gs-R made 534whp @ Medium boost using our complete street kit with a wastegate upgrade to Synapse and our GT35 upgrade.
On D-series Motors : Power is 200whp-260whp (stock block), 1 customer actually made 306whp on our street kit. ( Really NOT SAFE though, everything was stock aside from arp head studs and a new head gasket )
Please feel free to contact us should you have any questions.
Lastly when it comes to boost, look at what you are buying b4 hand, check for warranty, quality, fitment, reviews etc etc......
If one was to buy a kit from *************, I would expect them to be somewhat hesitant due to the relatively low cost of the kit. If I were to look at purchasing one of these kits, I'd want to know the specifics of every component in the kit (brand, materials...etc.) and see all components in person as well as a strong running example installed on a vehicle of the same/similar type. I'd also want to know how long some of these kits have been installed on other vehicles as well as any issues they encountered.
You're talking to some guys here who have been doing this for many years and are very experienced in the field. We have a pretty good idea of what it typically costs to build a reliable setup with quality components that will make "X" amount of power on "X" engine. So to say that power can be made on the same engine for that much less, it just raises some questions about where that cost is being saved...
No comments were ment to indictate that your kits are not good. Just wanted to explain that it just raises a few questions as to why the kits costs that much less.
05-May-2010, 08:38 AM
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just for referrence, i've made the same 300whp on B-series with those crappy XSpower, SSautocrome, JDMsport and EMUSA kits as well, I have several dyno sheets to show you.
I'm sure ANY decently sized turbo will make good jam, its the matter of how long will they last. I've seen some last years relatively problem free, then i've seen some that the BOV doesn't work right out of the box (Bradsma on here) or some that the turbo leaks oil from the center section brand new or some that the turbo self-destructs after only a few months.
Again, when a decent authentic garrett turbo alone costs $700-1500+ how good can a kit be that costs less than a good turbo? I'm not bashing anyone here, i'm simply stating FACTS from my first hand experiences doing this stuff for years.
You can find these cheap turbo kits on ebay for about $600-1000 now. I've even seen some kits that come with a turbo timer, manual boost controller and even fuel pressure regulator, mind you the quality was absolute garbage, but the kits came with a lot of crap.
A quick breakdown of pricing for quality parts:
Turbo - $700-1500+
Turbo Manifold - $300-1200
Wastegate - $300-400
BOV - $250-400
Intercooler - $250-600
Charge Pipes - $200-500
Downpipe - $250-400
Oil Lines/Fittings - $150
T-bolt Clamps - $100
Couplers - $100-200
Thats $2600-5500 depending on how good of parts you want. My prices are based on what I've paid for quality parts over the years. This is why a quality turbo kit costs $2500-5000 not including fuel system upgrades or engine management or tuning.
I'm sure ANY decently sized turbo will make good jam, its the matter of how long will they last. I've seen some last years relatively problem free, then i've seen some that the BOV doesn't work right out of the box (Bradsma on here) or some that the turbo leaks oil from the center section brand new or some that the turbo self-destructs after only a few months.
Again, when a decent authentic garrett turbo alone costs $700-1500+ how good can a kit be that costs less than a good turbo? I'm not bashing anyone here, i'm simply stating FACTS from my first hand experiences doing this stuff for years.
You can find these cheap turbo kits on ebay for about $600-1000 now. I've even seen some kits that come with a turbo timer, manual boost controller and even fuel pressure regulator, mind you the quality was absolute garbage, but the kits came with a lot of crap.
A quick breakdown of pricing for quality parts:
Turbo - $700-1500+
Turbo Manifold - $300-1200
Wastegate - $300-400
BOV - $250-400
Intercooler - $250-600
Charge Pipes - $200-500
Downpipe - $250-400
Oil Lines/Fittings - $150
T-bolt Clamps - $100
Couplers - $100-200
Thats $2600-5500 depending on how good of parts you want. My prices are based on what I've paid for quality parts over the years. This is why a quality turbo kit costs $2500-5000 not including fuel system upgrades or engine management or tuning.
05-May-2010, 09:24 AM
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^^Exactly. Basically, you've got to be careful and look at where the cost savings are coming from in a low-cost kit and how that will affect reliability.
05-May-2010, 02:56 PM
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i wouldnt mind knowing or hearing from someone on here who has used an fp kit b4 either
05-May-2010, 03:32 PM
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Hi,
Again anyone who would like to see the entire kit in person mounted on a display motor or running in a car is more then welcome to come by our office/showroom.
Our street kits start at $1,395.... there are many other options/upgrades one could take. We have made custom one of a kind kits for customers costing $7,000 + parts alone.
For the most part people who are looking for 200-350whp Our street kits are good enough. If any1 has any questions on a build they are trying to do please feel free to contact us, we are here to help
Again anyone who would like to see the entire kit in person mounted on a display motor or running in a car is more then welcome to come by our office/showroom.
Our street kits start at $1,395.... there are many other options/upgrades one could take. We have made custom one of a kind kits for customers costing $7,000 + parts alone.
For the most part people who are looking for 200-350whp Our street kits are good enough. If any1 has any questions on a build they are trying to do please feel free to contact us, we are here to help
05-May-2010, 03:40 PM
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Hi,
Again anyone who would like to see the entire kit in person mounted on a display motor or running in a car is more then welcome to come by our office/showroom.
Our street kits start at $1,395.... there are many other options/upgrades one could take. We have made custom one of a kind kits for customers costing $7,000 + parts alone.
For the most part people who are looking for 200-350whp Our street kits are good enough. If any1 has any questions on a build they are trying to do please feel free to contact us, we are here to help
Again anyone who would like to see the entire kit in person mounted on a display motor or running in a car is more then welcome to come by our office/showroom.
Our street kits start at $1,395.... there are many other options/upgrades one could take. We have made custom one of a kind kits for customers costing $7,000 + parts alone.
For the most part people who are looking for 200-350whp Our street kits are good enough. If any1 has any questions on a build they are trying to do please feel free to contact us, we are here to help
things like Brand, trim, A/R. Also what brand is the manifold?
I've been looking at your kits for a while now, though it seems too good to be true, maybe its one of those times when it actually is true
