baller4

Im on a pretty low budget for putting together a turbo setup for my B16, i came across hundreds of these turbos, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Garre...QQcmdZViewItem
(alot are TBO335 as well) I know they are OE turbos pulled from stock cars, many of them are rebuilt and an external wastegate is good for keeping the cost down, i was wondering how they would do on a b16. I know its kinda small and wont make great gains above 7k, but I really would like my car to have a little more torque around town and am not shooting to make any more than 240 or so whp max, and anything around 220 would be great.

Peter H

Why don't you just get a T3/T04E 50 or 57 trim? It will work MUCH better, and they aren't that expensive.

Thats not to say the T3 50 trim won't work. It will, but it wont have power up top. If that is truly something you dont care for, then get the T3. I am only saying that a properly sized turbo is a mere couple hundred away, and it's a worthy investment for a proper turbo setup.

As with buying any used turbo, inspect it for shaft play, oil coking, cracks and fractures.

If money is seriously that big of an issue though, I urge that you re-evaluate your decision on forced induction. If you are having problems shelling out the little bit of extra money for a turbo, how do you expect to pay for maintenance, fuel, and tuning? There are always hidden costs that you can't account for, and you should be prepared ahead of time to pay for them, should such events arise. Turbo-charging is becoming a popular solution, but it is definitely not for everyone.

Just something to consider.

Good luck!

bbarbulo

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it's never a good idea to build a turbo on a budget

zeeman

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i'd have to agree 100% with 2join and bruno, don't boost if money is tight. Unless you can do all the work/repairs/tuning yourself, this will save you tonnes of cash. But acquiring all of the necessary equipment just for tuning is a pretty penny, plus a laptop, not to mention having the knowledge of what to do, so you don't make the car run like ***. Fortuneately, i'm in that situation myself. I boosted my daily driver for practically free, other than the cost of a new oil pan gasket and some fluids, but all of the parts were given to me from my best-friend, so there was no expense for any of the parts...actually, i bought a new dual core rad b/c mine was shot and not up to par with the heat of a boosted engine, so i spent $110 on a new rad and thermostat, plus $60 for an oil pan gasket and fluids and have done all of the work (except welding, but weiRtech takes care of that for me) myself including tuning.
My CRX beater/race car is another story, i've got $50 into the whole project thus far and have got a d16y7/z6 mini-me and SI cable tranny, t25, hf-style manifold, SS oil feed/return lines, oldschool tube and fin TRUST FMIC, HKS BOV, DSM 450s, just need some IC piping and a downpipe. But i've had parts donated to me b/c i'm getting the CRX back on the road/track in memory of my best friend who passed away in a bike accident (RIP dennis) and they knew my buddy so they wanna see his car back on the road.
But anyways, i'm wayyyy off topic here, just a little excited that my winter project is almost done and its not even winter yet.

I'd seriously go with a t3/t4 50 or 57 trim just go with something with a smaller A/R and it'll spool up a little quicker. You can hit 220whp with a 14b, but that doesn't mean i'd put one on my b16, i've got a precision GT3255E, common in the grand national world, on my b16 and the top end power is rediculous. Its slow to spool (4000rpms) but thats ok IMO for a year round daily driver/weekend 1320 car.
Don't cheap out on boost parts. You'll spend more in the long run. I've tuned cars and have friends with cars with cheap turbo parts, and they've already replaced the wastegate for a good one, fixed/replaced the BOV, ditched the turbo for a better one or have had problems in general with fitment and/or quality of the parts.

bbarbulo

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you're givin people the wrong idea, cuz people like us who work on cars all the time, who help buddies with their cars and get parts in return for free etc. and we can do all the fab work, design, repairs, etc... that **** is free to us. but to most people, it's just not feasible, and it's also not smart if you can't deal with the problems later down the road esp if money is tight. even doing all the fab work myself and sourcing the best parts for cheap, my turbo ended up costing me over $4000, and that's no tuning - just a basemap.

zeeman

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hehe....ya, i'm definately lucky to have the friends/hook-ups that i do, but what goes around, comes around and now i'm cashing in...lol.
But i said don't boost ur car if money is tight.
I'm not saying boosted cars are unreliable, b/c they aren't at all, but if you cheap out on stuff (parts or labour) then the chances of having problems later on down the road will be higher than if you get good parts and have the work done properly.
Being able to do work on your own car is definately beneficial for a boosted setup, b/c you're adding more components to the car, and you're drastically increasing the power output of the little 4 banger designed to only make 150whp or so. So if/when **** goes wrong paying someone to fix things can get costly....especially if you take it to just a random shop, b/c if they see some younger guy, with a done-up/boosted car, they'll automatically assume you've got cash out the *** and charge you more (i've seen a few friends with lots of money in their cars get ripped off by shops).

honda1b6a

i think that turbo will be fine, if u have the money and no how to install some stuff urself go for it man. Make sure ur motor is stroonng very strong, when boosting a alright motor ur asking for trouble haha i no from expirence!

theres alot of small stuff and hidden costs, and alot of work in general, but in the end it all pays off and its veryyy fun.