bengali548

D-SERIES BOLT ON TURBO KIT 96 97 98 99 00 CIVIC EX LX - (eBay.ca item 190293968598 end time 22-Mar-09 15:11:48 EDT)



im kinda on a budget so i cant really dish otu 4k on a greddy turbo and i dont know where to look to make my own turbo kit so that looks enticing

any thoughts?

D.T.P

Would not buy it. Read lots of stories on different turbos of ebay. Welds on manifold/downpipe come off. You should just save up more and piece a kit together. Or buy the ebay kit and get new turbo/manifold/downpipe. But....not sure about the quality of other parts.

bengali548

id much rather piece together a kit because i can see it before i buy it but i dont know where to look

like again im a noob but what parts can i get that ARENT honda specific

like could i get the turbo from a 300zx the blow off valve from an rx7

i know that the manifolds have to be honda specific but i wanted to know what didnt have to be so i can give a kijiji check

Pistol Pete

boosting your car properly will cost you thousands.

Peakboost kits are FTW!

bengali548

how much money am i looking at to spend

i dont want to do an engine swap because its thousands of dollars and your car is still fairly slow but i'd rather invest all my money into doing up my d series

most i want to spend is 4000

zeeman

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if you gotta pay for all labour and install/tuning $4000 could be a tight squeeze by the time you get everything you need to properly do something like this.

I'd say on a budget, get at least a good turbo, manifold and wastegate (if the turbo isn't internally gated, which it would likely be if its off another stock car) and BOV if you can. The FMIC can be an old cheap one, or ebay stuff and so can the charge pipes.

Don't forget you'll also need to convert to obd1 and get it tuned. On any boosted setup you'll want at least 440cc injectors and a higher volume fuel pump (walbro 255lph). Eagle Talon turbo (DSM) blue or black top 450cc injectors are a common choice b/c they're easy to find and usally pretty cheap. In a 99 civic you'll need to wire up a resistor box to use the DSM injectors b/c DSM injectors are low impedance (peak and hold).

You might also be able to find a complete kit that someone had on their car and is selling for a decent price....but I definately wouldn't buy a xspower or ssautocrome (ebay crap) turbo kit. I've seen the wastegates and BOV's not work right out of the box brand new. I've seen the oil feed line melt within 10 minutes of the engine running after installing the kit. I've seen the turbos be absolutely mangled after less than 5000kms. On the other hand, i've seen some of these kits last a year or two (or even longer) before having issues. I'd definately stay away from them from my experiences.

bengali548

i have a friend tha'll help me out but i SORTA know how to do the install (found a couple guides did a bit of studying) so minus the labour to tune it should be 500 bucks so im left with 3500 but ya ill deff stay away from ebay but ill hound kijiji and TCC lol


but... could you define your FMIC

poy

front mount intercooler = FMIC

by the way good luck piecing everything

spike

Don't get the kit, it will end up costing you more in the end. The talon turbos and injectors work well on a civic just like zeeman said. I've used both.

Peter H

I have a D-series turbo kit, most parts are brand spanking new, and all name brand. Shoot me a PM if you are interested and we can work something out because I have a lot of extra parts too so you can add or subtract as you need to fit your budget.

Cheers.

Paolo

I have personally used an ebay turbo kit, and If you want my honest opinion there is pros and cons to it. The pro is, that if ur on a budget, its a good way to get ur turbo set up started, and then slowly replace the parts with better ones. The con is, like most people will say, the quality of the parts isnt that great. My wastegate went after about a month roughly, but everything else I still have after 3 yrs, and 3 different cars, and the kit made good power on all my different set ups.

With that being said, if I had to do it over again, I would probably spend the money right the first time, and take my time with it. In my case, we just wanted to boost the car quick, and it was our first time doing a boosted set up, so we didnt really know what to expect.

I am still using the original blow off valve, charge piping, and turbo. But the wastegate had to be replaced, and the downpipe. The downpipe that came with the kit was brutal.

The problem that most people dont understand when boosting a car is, if u have a low budget, there is no point on doing it(not trying to be an *** or anything, just realistic), because there is always unexpected costs, well not just with boostings cars, all mods in general, but the turbo ones are the most expensive.

bengali548

well right now im using zeemans post as a bible and searching for the parts myself i wanted to spend under 2000 on a turbo kit but i'll lay off on the ebay and try maybe kijiji or craigslist

zeeman

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Actually, i usually say don't use the 14b talon turbo. Its too small for our high(er) revving engines. I've used them on pretty much every engine under the sun and the only engine i'd recommend using it on is a non-vtec d-series b/c they don't rev super high.

DSM injectors wouldn't be my first choice either, simply b/c they could have 200,000+kms on them and not all flow the same amount b/c of build-up and what not over the years.
They will however work as an economical solution to needing bigger injectors.

megomaniac

I just saw a b16 in the classifieds for like 2000, and it's not going to depreciate your car like a ebay turbo kit will.

FPMotorsports

I've had first hand experience with Ebay turbo kits and have sold a **** load of those kits.
Theres a shop called jazparts or something like that some canadian website hes selling them for like $2grand+ lol.
Anyways I made 251 whp and 202 wtq on a D16z6 bone stock just zex cam/gear fully tuned with a b&m fpr, msd 6a, walbro fuel pump.
What ppl don't understand is xs-power / ssautochrome is the same company.
And it's either **** or GOOD. There kits are made in 2 different places...
1 = China 2= Uk/china.
You hear good things about xs-power? That kit came from China then to the UK then to the USA then to you.
You hear bad things about xs-power/ssautochrome? That kit came from china to the Usa to you.
If any1 needs a kit let me know
Also there new kits have better manifold welds.

Tyson09

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had one of these and i am now building something better, the turbo's are crap, the kits are only good for the intercooler piping and intercooler

believe me

D.T.P

You can piece together a kit for 2000$. I have all the parts collected, just need few gaskets and coolant lines for the 14b. Total was around 1700$
Thing is I'm not in a rush and I've been buying parts with every paycheck [since I always find some other things to blow cash on]. Started in October/November. I only go for good deals :P haha but by piecing it together you will save some $$ instead of buying a new kit, downside is that the parts aren't new. IMHO I don't care as long as they work and don't have anything wrong with em. Also I see 14b kits on the cheap come and go, look out for that. For $900'ish you can get most of the things one shot.

civicEJ1

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ive got the same philosophy on the used parts...ahaha i look at it like this...theyre already broken in...ahhaa

jdesouz

theres a k20 in the classifieds with 32k on the engine for 1500 ... hop on it thats MAD cheap and you'd still have to get the tranny and ecu but i mean its ur best bet ... and i could refer you to someone for install for about 1500-2000

zeeman

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if he doesn't want to dish out 4K on a turbo kit, do you really think he's gunna wanna dish out 7k for a k20 swap?

Ur forgetting about all the other crap (besides the engine, tranny, ecu) that he'll need to make a k20 work in his car.