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Old 21-Aug-2009, 08:37 AM
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Weird Whine Noise - HELP PLZ! (the sooner the better)

Alright so I went with a friend to look at a 98 cx hatch. W/ a D16y7.
It has 285,000, and when you rev the car at idle there is a weird whine noise that u hear on the driver side under the hood. It doesn't sound like an alternator belt and the car doesn't have power steering or a/c. And it is NOT coming from the alternator.

The whine:
It almost sounds like an electric motor whine. It is had to describe almost like and electric drill.

The Owner:
Said he had the timing belt done about 36,000 ago but didn't do the water pump.

Other than that the car is in amazing shape.

ANY thoughts or ideas anything, feel free to post. Any help is appreciated

Thanks in advance!
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 12:18 PM
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Does it change sounds when you increase rpm?
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 12:20 PM
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apparently water pumps can cause whining noise...I wonder why the owner wouldn't have changed the water pump when he changed the timing belt...big mistake.
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 12:23 PM
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Ya I know.
YA the noise starts around 1000 rpms and get louder with increasing rpms
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 12:31 PM
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So it has to be something that spins...your bearings in the water pump are probably on their way out...unfortunately it will only get louder from here if that's what it is. Hey at least you can drive around sounding like you have a supercharger in your car! haha
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 12:33 PM
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is your timing belt is tentioned properly?
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 12:35 PM
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Well I am looking to buy the car and i am hung up on this hoise. But as long as it is not internal I am ok doing the repairs.

do u know what a bad internal bearing sounds like?
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 12:36 PM
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Yea it sounds like you have rocks or marbles boucing around in the engine lol

Check this out:
Bulletin No.: 93-034
Model: 1992 - 1993 Accord Civic
Applicable To: All
File Under: Engine
Issue Date: September 10, 1993
Title: Noisy Water Pump
SYMPTOM:
A humming or whining noise coming from the water pump. The noise is most audible below 1100 rpm, and occurs only when the coolant is at normal operating temperature.
NOTE: This noise is often mistaken to be a dry or faulty alternator bearing. Diagnose the symptom carefully.
PROBABLE CAUSE:
Normal friction between water pump shaft and seal.
CORRECTIVE ACTION:
Add the water pump lubricant listed under PARTS INFORMATION to the radiator coolant.
There are no TSBs for the 1999 Honda Accord water pumps but If it is just noisy I don't see what harm adding some Honda water pump lubricant, P/N 08798-9005, would do. It can only help I believe.
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 12:44 PM
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My best guess is water pump....it's like an electrical buzzing noise right?
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Sounds like an eletric drill.
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It sounds like an eletric drille
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Old 21-Aug-2009, 03:19 PM
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yea, it's the water pump....bummer, too bad it wasn't changed with the timing belt, it's a cheap part! lol
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The best way is to remove the drive belts & start the engine if the noise goes away its one of your drive belts or your alternator. If the noise is still there it could be your water pump or tensioner. It could be the alternator, sometimes it does not sound like it but it could be the alternator.
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Thanks again for all ur help

I will update if i get the car.
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So I bought it today. Only able to talk the guy down to 750.
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lol not bad at all! post some pics!
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Old 24-Aug-2009, 12:40 PM
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The noise you are refering too is a over tight timing belt check tension on the belt
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i had a weird noise when the harmonic balancer wobbled out. when car is running look down and see if it wobbles at all.
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change the water pump and that whining noise will most likley go away..that lubricant **** doesnt work lol i have tried it its only for a temp fix lol
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Water pump or bearing in idler tensioner under timing belt cover.
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