turbo or motor build?
#1
turbo or motor build?
hi, its probably a big dilemma for a lot of people and also me. well im looking to get some more power out of my car. i do not have a budget since im starting to save up but i was just wondering what your opinions are? i got a d16z6 motor. are there any head swaps i could do on this block? would a dohc head fit on a sohc block[if so b series??] ? also i guess i would have to rebuild my motor for turbo correct? since i dont want it to blow on me. if going turbo i was thinking about a garrett bolt on turbo to run 6-8psi not more. if new motor then something like b16b head on a b16 block. well yeah so im not too sure which way i want to go. any advice appreciated. also would turbo get damaged/affected by any way during winter? also for that matter how about supercharger. again im all over the place. advice needed.
thanks.
thanks.
#2
No a DOHC will not fit onto a SOHC block, the cheapest way to make power is with a turbo, as long as you don't boost it to much, because is you put alot of boost into your engine your going to need to stud your engine, and that means ripping it apart to do that.
#5
Well that's good to know, I was little bit worried about that.
Also can. Install the turbo myself? Is there any welding needed to mount intercooler or other parts? And how much would a orikevy like that would run me with tuning? I know it won't be exact but something approximate. Sorry a lot of questions haha
Also can. Install the turbo myself? Is there any welding needed to mount intercooler or other parts? And how much would a orikevy like that would run me with tuning? I know it won't be exact but something approximate. Sorry a lot of questions haha
#9
lol i know i saw mk1 rabbit with 24valve vr6 for $1000 but i like my civic.i mean i dont wanna run high boost on special built motor. all i want is a little extra kick.
yeah i guess turbo set-up would be best way to go. Thanks "Spike" for all your help.
yeah i guess turbo set-up would be best way to go. Thanks "Spike" for all your help.
#10
Well that's good to know, I was little bit worried about that.
Also can. Install the turbo myself? Is there any welding needed to mount intercooler or other parts? And how much would a orikevy like that would run me with tuning? I know it won't be exact but something approximate. Sorry a lot of questions haha
Also can. Install the turbo myself? Is there any welding needed to mount intercooler or other parts? And how much would a orikevy like that would run me with tuning? I know it won't be exact but something approximate. Sorry a lot of questions haha
I've seen lots of Z6's running 300+hp woth boost....FYI!
#11
boost it.
You don't need anything special done to the engine to run 8psi...hell i've tuned literally dozens of boosted SOHC's running 10-12psi reliably. Its all in the tuning.
I don't know your skill level, but installing a turbo kit can be a pretty intensive job that definately can require welding (making charge pipes, making a downpipe, welding the oil return line fitting into the oil pan, etc etc etc). Even if you buy a pre-fabbed kit, don't expect to not have to modify anything. Unless you're buying a used kit that someone had on their car, chances are you'll have to do at least some welding.
A half decent turbo kit will cost $2500-4000, that doesn't include bigger injectors, a better fuel pump, or anything tuning related. Sure you can peice together a "junk yard" kit, but who knows how reliable those parts will be.
You don't need anything special done to the engine to run 8psi...hell i've tuned literally dozens of boosted SOHC's running 10-12psi reliably. Its all in the tuning.
I don't know your skill level, but installing a turbo kit can be a pretty intensive job that definately can require welding (making charge pipes, making a downpipe, welding the oil return line fitting into the oil pan, etc etc etc). Even if you buy a pre-fabbed kit, don't expect to not have to modify anything. Unless you're buying a used kit that someone had on their car, chances are you'll have to do at least some welding.
A half decent turbo kit will cost $2500-4000, that doesn't include bigger injectors, a better fuel pump, or anything tuning related. Sure you can peice together a "junk yard" kit, but who knows how reliable those parts will be.
#12
I see, I was asking if any welding will be needing since I was thinking about the bolt on kits. Anyways, thanks for all the info, I'm not getting anything done yet but I'm saving up, so I just wanted to know what I should look farword to. Also T-Mack would B series head due on z6 block? Even if with little modification, it get it done at a shop anyways.
#16
well, at least it lasted a year, i've tuned some cars where they only get 2000kms before their ebay turbos blow up.
A guy just towed his car here from kitchener last weekend with an XSpower turbo kit on it. The turbo oil feed line (stainless steel line) melted about 4" away from the turbo after about 10 minutes of the car running.....quality.
A guy just towed his car here from kitchener last weekend with an XSpower turbo kit on it. The turbo oil feed line (stainless steel line) melted about 4" away from the turbo after about 10 minutes of the car running.....quality.
#17
haha sounds about right...good thing your here, im probably going to shoot you a pm shortly. im going to probably going with the GT30 and some good lower end internals...300hp..to 350hp maybe. so i turn to you about tuning. but we will save this for later because im just saving for the turbo right now.
#19
I was on the same road as you a few months ago.
Research turbo single cams (turbod16.com d-series.org) ...... then boost your stock z6. Meanwhile pick up another z6 for dirt cheap and build it over time. This way you have a car to get around in and it's not a priority to get your engine built and installed asap like it is for my right now.
Block Parts:
forged 9:1 comp. pistons
Forged rods
main bearings
ARP head studs
Head gasket
255 lph Fuel pump
Bigger injectors
Machine shop labour
Tuning!!!! Don't even be stupid and not tune your motor.
Now crank the boost and kill your old motor :-D
Research turbo single cams (turbod16.com d-series.org) ...... then boost your stock z6. Meanwhile pick up another z6 for dirt cheap and build it over time. This way you have a car to get around in and it's not a priority to get your engine built and installed asap like it is for my right now.
Block Parts:
forged 9:1 comp. pistons
Forged rods
main bearings
ARP head studs
Head gasket
255 lph Fuel pump
Bigger injectors
Machine shop labour
Tuning!!!! Don't even be stupid and not tune your motor.
Now crank the boost and kill your old motor :-D
Last edited by suno_eg; 01-Oct-2008 at 07:51 PM.