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k1ddr 26-Oct-2009 10:36 AM

Build
 
hey guys i was wondering what is a poor mans build?

zeeman 26-Oct-2009 01:27 PM

if you mean a poor mans Type R, thats when you take a GSR bottom end and put a B16 head on it.

A Type-R engine is almost a GSR bottom end with a B16 head, but it uses different pistons in the bottom end and a slightly different crank (same stroke as the GSR). The Type-R head is a b16 head thats been "ported", has better valve springs and valves, better cams, better intake manifold and throttle body compared to the b16 head.

k1ddr 27-Oct-2009 10:15 AM

go to know thanks ..going to pick up my hatch this week .. (my first honda cant wait)

civicEJ1 27-Oct-2009 10:17 AM

enjoy

Persia 27-Oct-2009 01:52 PM

ls vtec ftw! thats what i wanna do :D

miss_jess 27-Oct-2009 03:21 PM

shoulda bought an rsx... tisk tisk lol

just kidding

enjoy :)

k1ddr 27-Oct-2009 04:43 PM

lol .. i wish i could ... it would be between ep3 or rsx type s
but right now i want to play around with the bseries

Trybal 27-Oct-2009 05:19 PM

Congrats and Welcome!

F8i 27-Oct-2009 08:43 PM

What's your price range you're looking to spend?

chris_v2 27-Oct-2009 09:48 PM

If you are looking to make any serious reliable power I highly suggest you come in contact with zeeman from hivelocity tuning. He's seen it all.

kurptk 28-Oct-2009 10:29 AM

serious reliable power= stock B16

Persia 28-Oct-2009 03:17 PM

b18b1 is a very reliable engine... its when u get a b16 head for vtec that ive heard bad stories.

BUT Turboed b18b1 with a b16 head is awesome! and fairly cheap.

As for power, ask Milano SIR how he enjoyed his ride in my car and how he liked the power output. :P

tfus 28-Oct-2009 09:08 PM

^ so are you suggesting a build with a b18b, and placing a b16 head on it? :P i have an chance to get my hands on a 95 SI with a rebuild head, debating doing that or sticking with the b18 head

threadjacked

oh and for cheap build i would suggest soapbox...

D.T.P 28-Oct-2009 09:28 PM

Ls vtec is fun, but if you gonna turbo stick with b18b1.

tfus 28-Oct-2009 09:31 PM

haha thanks man

3rdgen3 28-Oct-2009 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by PrinceOfPersia (Post 1431288)
b18b1 is a very reliable engine... its when u get a b16 head for vtec that ive heard bad stories.

BUT Turboed b18b1 with a b16 head is awesome! and fairly cheap.

As for power, ask Milano SIR how he enjoyed his ride in my car and how he liked the power output. :P

You realize that makes no sense? Regardless of the reason why you do it, putting a B16 head on a B18b bottom end is the same ****. So, how would putting a B16 head on a B18b bottom end and boosting it be more reliable than just putting making in N/A?

Anyways...if reliability is the highest priority here when making the extra power, than I have to agree that the best bang for buck is a stock B18b boosted with a very good tune.

You will make more power from say a boosted GSR, but look at how cheap b18b's are. Bang for buck y0.

Persia 29-Oct-2009 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by 3rdgen3 (Post 1431361)
You realize that makes no sense? Regardless of the reason why you do it, putting a B16 head on a B18b bottom end is the same ****. So, how would putting a B16 head on a B18b bottom end and boosting it be more reliable than just putting making in N/A?

Anyways...if reliability is the highest priority here when making the extra power, than I have to agree that the best bang for buck is a stock B18b boosted with a very good tune.

You will make more power from say a boosted GSR, but look at how cheap b18b's are. Bang for buck y0.

B18b1 with a b16 head will give u vtec... I did say that i have heard of people having issues with reliability. But i have seen a few b18b1 with b16 + turbo. Just google LS VTEC TURBO... ull see.

Persia 29-Oct-2009 12:51 AM

b18b1's dont have vtec

3rdgen3 29-Oct-2009 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by PrinceOfPersia (Post 1431389)
B18b1 with a b16 head will give u vtec... I did say that i have heard of people having issues with reliability. But i have seen a few b18b1 with b16 + turbo. Just google LS VTEC TURBO... ull see.

Right...I know how an LSVTEC is made...VTEC head on a non-vtec bottom end... B18a/b or B20..whatever it is, you throw on a VTEC head and add the oil line.

BUT, you said you've heard bad stories of B18b's with a B16 head (LS-VTEC)...but than you go on to say a boosted B18b with a B16 head is awesome...so what im saying is, how does that make any sense, since the only difference than would be the turbo?

A Turbocharged LS-VTEC setup in NO WAY is more reliable than an N/A LS-VTEC...everything else being equal.

3rdgen3 29-Oct-2009 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by PrinceOfPersia (Post 1431390)
b18b1's dont have vtec

No one said they did...all B18a/b's are non-vtec.


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