Are Hood Pins Really Necessary When You Have A Carbon Fiber Hood?
07-Mar-2005, 06:43 PM
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k where are all you guys getting you prices from?
lol
hood pins are 30 MAX
hood locks are 50 MAX
the difference between a sparco and a generic brand is the LOOKS and the NAME nothing else.
oh yea hood locks are ILLEGAL
hood pins are legal but CARBON FIBRE HOOD are illegal but often overlooked.
lol
hood pins are 30 MAX
hood locks are 50 MAX
the difference between a sparco and a generic brand is the LOOKS and the NAME nothing else.
oh yea hood locks are ILLEGAL
hood pins are legal but CARBON FIBRE HOOD are illegal but often overlooked.
09-Mar-2005, 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Younes Si
I dont' know why your making this harder then it looks.
you do this
1. you'll be safe
2. it looks nice
3. you wont have to worry about a smashed winsheld
4. not expensive
5. easy install
= simple as that
I dont' know why your making this harder then it looks.
you do this
1. you'll be safe
2. it looks nice
3. you wont have to worry about a smashed winsheld
4. not expensive
5. easy install
= simple as that
couldnt have put it better myself
11-Mar-2005, 09:43 AM
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if someone was to consider hood pins as rice they are retarded, not aiming this at you...
but they are there for a reason, for safty , doing the job they are designed for, thinking not to put them on realy doesn't even make sence...
now hoodpins on a stock hood, or the fake glue on hoodpins... now thats rice...
hoodpins on a cf hood... now thats just safty
but they are there for a reason, for safty , doing the job they are designed for, thinking not to put them on realy doesn't even make sence...
now hoodpins on a stock hood, or the fake glue on hoodpins... now thats rice...
hoodpins on a cf hood... now thats just safty
11-Mar-2005, 11:40 AM
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Good point. It doesn't make sense to me to have them. Like mentioned before, they are designed for actual race cars that travel real fast. say 100MPH+ and the hoods they use don't have the latch that stock hoods have to hold down the hood. I believe they do that so its faster for them to remove the hood else really, I don't see why the latch should not be able to hold down the hood. If you think about it, even a stock hood would fly up if it had no latch on the front. Now I'm not trying to argue but I just don't see how its NOT safe w/o hood pins.
11-Mar-2005, 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by D dot T
Good point. It doesn't make sense to me to have them. Like mentioned before, they are designed for actual race cars that travel real fast. say 100MPH+ and the hoods they use don't have the latch that stock hoods have to hold down the hood. I believe they do that so its faster for them to remove the hood else really, I don't see why the latch should not be able to hold down the hood. If you think about it, even a stock hood would fly up if it had no latch on the front. Now I'm not trying to argue but I just don't see how its NOT safe w/o hood pins.
Good point. It doesn't make sense to me to have them. Like mentioned before, they are designed for actual race cars that travel real fast. say 100MPH+ and the hoods they use don't have the latch that stock hoods have to hold down the hood. I believe they do that so its faster for them to remove the hood else really, I don't see why the latch should not be able to hold down the hood. If you think about it, even a stock hood would fly up if it had no latch on the front. Now I'm not trying to argue but I just don't see how its NOT safe w/o hood pins.
11-Mar-2005, 04:15 PM
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If you guys really wanna get technical. A carbon fiber hood effects the crumple zones on your vehicle. Ie. it takes less of an impact to compress the zone in turn relying on the passenger compartment to absorb more of the G forces then what it was intended for. In laymens terms t-bone a car at an intersection with a carbon fiber hood on your car doing 80km/h instead of your body feeling 1g with a regular hood it would feel more like 3g's with the carbon fiber one since the crumple zone is easier to compress. Point proven you only live once have fun doing it and quit worrying.
11-Mar-2005, 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by rbjeepthing
If you guys really wanna get technical. A carbon fiber hood effects the crumple zones on your vehicle. Ie. it takes less of an impact to compress the zone in turn relying on the passenger compartment to absorb more of the G forces then what it was intended for. In laymens terms t-bone a car at an intersection with a carbon fiber hood on your car doing 80km/h instead of your body feeling 1g with a regular hood it would feel more like 3g's with the carbon fiber one since the crumple zone is easier to compress. Point proven you only live once have fun doing it and quit worrying.
If you guys really wanna get technical. A carbon fiber hood effects the crumple zones on your vehicle. Ie. it takes less of an impact to compress the zone in turn relying on the passenger compartment to absorb more of the G forces then what it was intended for. In laymens terms t-bone a car at an intersection with a carbon fiber hood on your car doing 80km/h instead of your body feeling 1g with a regular hood it would feel more like 3g's with the carbon fiber one since the crumple zone is easier to compress. Point proven you only live once have fun doing it and quit worrying.
i thought they dont crumple easily????? i heard that they tend to come right throught the windsheild in accidents.....
11-Mar-2005, 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by spracingsports
i thought they dont crumple easily????? i heard that they tend to come right throught the windsheild in accidents.....
i thought they dont crumple easily????? i heard that they tend to come right throught the windsheild in accidents.....
cf hoods do not crumple
in fact they tend to maintain in the state they were but they can crack tho.
problem with this is on a head on collision you will be headless since the cf hood will come right thru the window and cut ur head off and i am soooo not joking.
as for the hoodpins they arent meant for saftey.
they are actually meant for race as a quick release to open the hood incase of a fire etc...
we put the hoodpins on because there are two of them and both hold down one side of the hood in the front plus the latch so that means the front end is pretty tighly secured from air going in and raising the hood up. this does not mean its a safety device.
HOOD PINS ARE NOT SAFETY DEVICES THEY ARE QUICK RELEASES..
please dont get confused with that this is for anyone who thought otherwise
12-Mar-2005, 03:05 AM
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i was involved in a head-on with a VIS carbon hood. the hood didnt crumple at all, instead all the energy was transferred to the rest of the car and that shattered my rear window to pieces of shi7.
the hood was in perfect shape except for a crack on the underside. and it did not fly thru the window, the hinges were bolted on securly.
oncoming vehicle going around 40-50 km same as me.
first hand experience.
the hood was in perfect shape except for a crack on the underside. and it did not fly thru the window, the hinges were bolted on securly.
oncoming vehicle going around 40-50 km same as me.
first hand experience.
13-Mar-2005, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by 00project
i was involved in a head-on with a VIS carbon hood. the hood didnt crumple at all, instead all the energy was transferred to the rest of the car and that shattered my rear window to pieces of shi7.
the hood was in perfect shape except for a crack on the underside. and it did not fly thru the window, the hinges were bolted on securly.
oncoming vehicle going around 40-50 km same as me.
first hand experience.
i was involved in a head-on with a VIS carbon hood. the hood didnt crumple at all, instead all the energy was transferred to the rest of the car and that shattered my rear window to pieces of shi7.
the hood was in perfect shape except for a crack on the underside. and it did not fly thru the window, the hinges were bolted on securly.
oncoming vehicle going around 40-50 km same as me.
first hand experience.
as for the crumple zone thats exactly thats what happens when carbon hood are put on cuz it doesnt transfer energy only to the front but it ****** further.
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