response to philisophical question and user comments
 

the family would not know of your actions.. just you and the other.. the other having made their wishes known to you...

I'd never do it...

I just can't think or a moral reason why it is taboo or 'wrong'.

Incest has been taboo through all cultures, but can be scientifically shown as wrong because assuming everything is natural, incest causes problems with future generations of children.

Cannibalism (controlled, eating fallen people like in war) and Necrophelia, I can't think of any reasons.

necrophilia isn't necessarily sex with a dead person... it's a desire for intimacy with dead things. I'd call it a deviant sexual fetish.

your an idiot, plain and simple
you keep saying you'd never do it, but yet you keep posting about it so somewhere down deep inside you, i think you want some after hours access to the local funeral home...don't you

so go do it get it over with and then maybe you can post some halfway relevant

Whats the point of this thread?

yeah man!!!!

no, i want to see if anyone here has any critical thinking skills.

that was actually question for a university paper for a philosophy course my friend had, and I was unable to help. I'm more into metaphysics, but morality is pretty interesting as well.

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Like I believe it's only okay to kill an animal if you are going to use it to survive. Nourishment mainly. I would have no problem with people killing baby seals if they ate them, but I would be against killing them just for the pelt.

In a war.. would it be moral to eat your fallen friends or enemies? It can save the lives of other animals you would eat, you can say you're disrespecting the dead, but I'm pretty sure the dead don't care.

You could argue it would be immoral not to eat fallen people in a battlefield because you are wasting a source of food that other living things will pay the price for. Plus, it would be much more efficient as feeding the troops would be much easier.

Not everything is about comfort and preference.

the point of this thread is one thing and one thing only.

THINK

why dont you join a philosophical forum?

this is mainly a civic forum for civic enthusiats, so i doubt you will generate much interest with your desire for alternative intimacy.

you are either a deeply disturbed individual with an overwhelming desire to have intimacy with a cadaver, or you are a deeply disturbed individual who gets off on presenting your deviant ideas to others and making them uncomfortable.

i have a suggestion to you, go to a butcher shop and buy a slaughtered medium sized animal, such as a sheep. go nuts on it, pretend its your girlfriend, in a nice and safe way, and please leave our happy little community alone.

so it's about morality? is it moral to force others into entertaining ideas they may find uncomfortable? that is what you are doing, is it not?

would it not be slightly "more moral" to present this idea to an abstract think tank of philosophy and psychology enthusiasts on a relevant forum who make the CHOICE to want to think about such ideas?

edit: i apologize to the mods for the double post, i should have edited the first one

You must be one boring person..

I have better things to do then think about useless things....


Find a new hobby ...

I'm closer to number 2.

I am a civic driver myself and am in the chit chat area.

unless this is the 'my girlfriend did [insert tired topic here]', or 'i just bought a [insert technology gadget here]' topic, no one wishes to speak about anything else?

Instead of everyone going 'yuck' why not explain why 'yuck'. Try and expand your mind and your abilities.

Society is going downhill, all people want is what is fed by the media. No one wants to think.

Look at the discovery channel. Before, it had a variety of educational shows... now it's chopper building and gay home repair.

I didn't know I was forcing anyone to do anything. Just don't think about it. I could argue television is forcing things I don't want to see on here, and that is immoral. Should it be stopped? No. Maybe I should just not go to those channels that bother me.

I never said I lead a moral life either.

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Eh, I'm bored at work. So this isn't a hobby, it's more of a job at the moment. thinking is boring. hahahaha. I think that's a good comment for me to judge the level or intelligence for some people.

you sound like an interesting person with a "different" sense of humour.

i get your point, but a warning: this is not the place to muse about your ideas.

unless your topic is something that warrants " TIS IZ M4D TIT3 JDM ****T7 YOOO" you will get flamed.. think about the general demographic you are dealing with..

please don't tell me civic drivers are limited to 19 year old eminem listening 'thugs'

civic nation.

haha

i wanted to kill myself when i first got my car. now i'm dealing with it.

the average age here is young, you would have to expect such a thing, there are older boys here and girls i'm sure

but still bring up a different Philosophy question, something maybe not as harsh, like aquestion on another Philosophy test....

Why?

and then see what happens and the kind of responses you get, its much easier of a topic to handle and you might not get banned for posting that

i'm not telling you anything about civic drivers. you can draw your own conclusions from the many flame posts you generate.

one think that may be wrong with necrophilia (which incidently is defined as an irrisitable sexual attraction to dead bodies for all those who are jumping to conclusions, and not actually having intercourse with dead bodies) is that you are arguably ignoring the dignity of dead bodies and their meaning in the life of the person they used to be, which is a very important idea to the human psyche and mental well being.

i hope that comes close to satisfying what you wanted to hear as a response.

I'm bored at work too...but really I'm not interested in necrophilia.

Lets talk about this thing called morality. Morality and normalcy are dictated by society as a whole, decisions are based upon what is good for the larger group, not the individuals. There is a flaw in this theory that proper decisions in right and wrong can be made by this group. All persons are influenced in some way by their surroundings, therefore it is my belief that one person with superior intelligence (or social intelligence) can manipulate the group into accepting his/her views as the right moral law.

Thus everyone adapts to the acceptance level of one kook, conservative or not, and abides by their rules. Society is a group of sheep who have the need to be lead by a shepherd, no one is into free thinking (well there are a few).

Hence your response here, everyone here thinks you are sick for brining this up because someone once has told them this is not a topic to discuss.

flame posts mean nothing but "i'm too stupid or I don't care enough to say anything other swearing or saying how stupid you are"

That doesn't really bother me. Makes me laugh.

The human pscyhe does not exist after death though.. or does not appear to at least. As of right now, I would state that I don't really care what happens to my body after death. I would probably prefer to not have it defiled, but in the end, it wouldn't really matter to 'me' once I'm already dead (of natural causes or whatever)

It's a very hard question. Drove me nuts trying to think about it. I can argue both sides now.

Controversial topics I like 'cause it really separates those who can hold their ground and those that will end up swearing. The ones who swear quickly usually bring nothing to the table at a discussion anyway.

The topic is only contriversial because someone once said it was wrong to be intimate with the deceased.

However, I do believe the psyche lives beyond the body and this life, but it cares no more of the prison it once lived in.

It is known that the majority frustrates with topics it does not want to think about, nor discuss. I don't think we can measure intelligence this way, just sensitivity.

Michelle,

If you wish to talk about moral and immoral actions, these are defined by social constructs. Something derived by the society the morals are in.

There are two views. I forget the two names.

Moral behaviour can be defined as what is best for the group at the end. The ends justifies the means. Whatever actions happen to lead to the greatest majority of people. Using this basis for moral behaviour, slavery by the majority on the minority can be justified. 5000 blue people will be happy because 50 green people are wiping their asses. The blue people have been taught that green people are meant to wipe their ass and don't feel bad for them.

The other way you can look at moraility is it is not the destination, it is the journey that must be done to keep happiness without removing them from others. by making the green and blue people equal, you are making the 50 green people much happier, but 5000 blue people not as happy. So even though the same level of happiness overall is not achieved, you have acted in accordance to not causing harm.

The same goes for human experimentation. The nazis had a lot of inhumane medical experiments. Forget ethical treatment of prisoners, the nazis would do things like freeze people in water until they were medically dead, bring them back over and over to see what produced the best revival. They would cut out an organ to see what would happen.

Now these horrible actions hurt a number of people, but the research gained has saved countless lives. Without the nazi research, medicine would be many years behind.

in the end, the nazi research caused a lot of happiness.

so were their actions moral?!

I dunno.. people who don't want to think about things.. usually.. I don't have a high opinion of.

I've been ask to stop talking about religion by people because I was making their faith falter too much. I did stop.

But at the same time, how can you say you want to avoid information because you might be proven wrong.

That is a weakness..

I understand why you posted that.

But you have to understand that the audience you're targeting here won't understand a damn thing you're saying. There are a few good mature souls who will, but majority will just think you're weird.

It's good to see something refreshing for a change though.

The points you brought up are basically about what is morally right or wrong to do. Morals are man made, we dictate what is right and wrong for people to do or not to do. Everyone will have a different opinion and way to do things, it's MAJORITY that ultimately decides for the WHOLE what's morally right or wrong though. I don't condemn people for their actions and choices, just as long as their actions don't infringe on other people.

I agree with Michelle, we do as we are taught and if we were taught this is wrong and that is right, we will live our lives and teach our children the same. Monkey see, Monkey do. That's how we learn. As children they are supposedly to be seen and not heard, they are told what is right and what to do. It's a never ending cycle.