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Old 22-Aug-2009, 08:02 AM
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What pisses me off is that where I work we get our breaks through out the 12h shift and that's it. Meanwhile the muslim people get their prayer times and they don't ask nice, they demand. Now in my oppinion its fine, whatever you believe in, that's your problem. Now the issue is, while all Muslims go pray multiple times a day and waste about 1h+ the supervisors do not allow me to go for a quick smoke while on the floor. I mean if you believe in religion, good for you and management allows breaks for them, while since I have no "valid" reason to take a quick break 2x a day which would only take up max 10min a day is out of line. Its some silly belief vs addiction. All the muslim workers say its a need to pray, well its a need for me to have a smoke. It seems like nobody wants to actually deal with this issue because people are "afraid" yo somehow be out of line and possibly hurt somebodies feelings. Hell if I was in charge, do whatever you want on your breaks, pray 2+ times, but if you are working, that means no bs breaks to go talk to some "imaginary" friend as Bruce said. I'm quite sure their god will not punish them for being late for a prayer. And since everybody is too much of a pu$$y to say anything to them, they take advantage of the situation. Ex. One guy took 30minutes to "pray" while he was praying for maybe 5min then went to get some food, ate and only then returned to work.
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Old 22-Aug-2009, 09:54 AM
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What pisses me off is that where I work we get our breaks through out the 12h shift and that's it. Meanwhile the muslim people get their prayer times and they don't ask nice, they demand. Now in my oppinion its fine, whatever you believe in, that's your problem. Now the issue is, while all Muslims go pray multiple times a day and waste about 1h+ the supervisors do not allow me to go for a quick smoke while on the floor. I mean if you believe in religion, good for you and management allows breaks for them, while since I have no "valid" reason to take a quick break 2x a day which would only take up max 10min a day is out of line. Its some silly belief vs addiction. All the muslim workers say its a need to pray, well its a need for me to have a smoke. It seems like nobody wants to actually deal with this issue because people are "afraid" yo somehow be out of line and possibly hurt somebodies feelings. Hell if I was in charge, do whatever you want on your breaks, pray 2+ times, but if you are working, that means no bs breaks to go talk to some "imaginary" friend as Bruce said. I'm quite sure their god will not punish them for being late for a prayer. And since everybody is too much of a pu$$y to say anything to them, they take advantage of the situation. Ex. One guy took 30minutes to "pray" while he was praying for maybe 5min then went to get some food, ate and only then returned to work.
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Old 22-Aug-2009, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scrid3r
What pisses me off is that where I work we get our breaks through out the 12h shift and that's it. Meanwhile the muslim people get their prayer times and they don't ask nice, they demand. Now in my oppinion its fine, whatever you believe in, that's your problem. Now the issue is, while all Muslims go pray multiple times a day and waste about 1h+ the supervisors do not allow me to go for a quick smoke while on the floor. I mean if you believe in religion, good for you and management allows breaks for them, while since I have no "valid" reason to take a quick break 2x a day which would only take up max 10min a day is out of line. Its some silly belief vs addiction. All the muslim workers say its a need to pray, well its a need for me to have a smoke. It seems like nobody wants to actually deal with this issue because people are "afraid" yo somehow be out of line and possibly hurt somebodies feelings. Hell if I was in charge, do whatever you want on your breaks, pray 2+ times, but if you are working, that means no bs breaks to go talk to some "imaginary" friend as Bruce said. I'm quite sure their god will not punish them for being late for a prayer. And since everybody is too much of a pu$$y to say anything to them, they take advantage of the situation. Ex. One guy took 30minutes to "pray" while he was praying for maybe 5min then went to get some food, ate and only then returned to work.
quit ur job if you are not happy...isn't that the moral of this thread?

secondly, abusing the break is something that the supervisor must address....b/c it takes 5-10 min max to pray....so maybe you should bring that up

and if you don't believe in God, no need to disrespect those that do....it's like saying Christians go to Church on Sunday to talk to an imaginary friend...

ignorance is bliss I suppose
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I don't mean to disrespect, but that is my point of view, if I offended anybody I applagize. I cannot quit my job is because it pays me ok for now, I'm not going back to school till January or until I save up enough to pay for it. Now again, that's the problem with supervisors is that they do not want to offend other people since at my work, no one has any sort of higher education and therefore do not understand other religions. Which leads to them not being able to manage people since they do not want to come across as uneducated or stupid. So in the end people who are muslim take advantage of this situation and do whatever they wish.
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Originally Posted by 1999blksi
quit ur job if you are not happy...isn't that the moral of this thread?

secondly, abusing the break is something that the supervisor must address....b/c it takes 5-10 min max to pray....so maybe you should bring that up

and if you don't believe in God, no need to disrespect those that do....it's like saying Christians go to Church on Sunday to talk to an imaginary friend...

ignorance is bliss I suppose
It takes on avg 15 min per prayer and at least 4 times per avg. shift. Which equals 1 hour a day, times that by 5 work days = 5 hours. So they work 37 hours for a 42 hour work week. Now times that by 52, that's 260 hours a year. that's 4.333 day's off a year.
Pray to whatever god or belief or imaginary friend you like, but getting paid to do it on work time is not right, or since I'm entitled to one just like everyone, right or wrong it's my opinion.
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Exactly my point. I could say I believe in nicotine god [no offence] and I must worship him by having a smoke on certain times.
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Originally Posted by Rice Burner
It takes on avg 15 min per prayer and at least 4 times per avg. shift. Which equals 1 hour a day, times that by 5 work days = 5 hours. So they work 37 hours for a 42 hour work week. Now times that by 52, that's 260 hours a year. that's 4.333 day's off a year.
Pray to whatever god or belief or imaginary friend you like, but getting paid to do it on work time is not right, or since I'm entitled to one just like everyone, right or wrong it's my opinion.
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I got a lot of muslin friends and they do n abuse this.. They pray at their breaks or lunches and thats it ... Or they wait until they get home to pray ..

Many of them actually believe some muslims are abusing this prayer thing ...

Two of my co workers are muslims and they only go out to pray on friday ( from 1-215) however they clocked out before they leave and once they come back they clocked in , so they do not get pay for it....

I dont want to generalize however i find that the laziest ones are the ones that take advantage of this prayer thing ... Not all but the majority that i seen doing it tend to be the laziest workers ....
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Originally Posted by Rice Burner
It takes on avg 15 min per prayer and at least 4 times per avg. shift. Which equals 1 hour a day, times that by 5 work days = 5 hours. So they work 37 hours for a 42 hour work week. Now times that by 52, that's 260 hours a year. that's 4.333 day's off a year.
Pray to whatever god or belief or imaginary friend you like, but getting paid to do it on work time is not right, or since I'm entitled to one just like everyone, right or wrong it's my opinion.

I dont know what to tell you besides the fact that your wrong... Tell me what AVERAGE shift contains 4 prayers? Prayers should not take 15 minutes but whatever... I honestly dont know what to say about this misinformation you insist on spreading.
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This is turning into an interesting topic.
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Originally Posted by Rice Burner
It takes on avg 15 min per prayer and at least 4 times per avg. shift. Which equals 1 hour a day, times that by 5 work days = 5 hours. So they work 37 hours for a 42 hour work week. Now times that by 52, that's 260 hours a year. that's 4.333 day's off a year.
Pray to whatever god or belief or imaginary friend you like, but getting paid to do it on work time is not right, or since I'm entitled to one just like everyone, right or wrong it's my opinion.
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4 prayers per shift if you work 16hr shifts maybe.

each prayer should take an avg of 5-10 min...so that's 10-20 min MAX per 7.5 hr shift if you do 2 prayers.

I think ppl are missing the point of the counter-argument here....NO1 works their full **** doing 100% work...you chat, you take smoke breaks, you go to the washroom, you do this and you do that....so whats the problem if someone takes 20 min a day to pray?!?!? If they abuse it, then yes that is not acceptabe. Secondly, they can fit one of the prayers into their lunch break....b/c it falls around lunch time....so whats the problem here?

I think ppl are pissed b/c they feel like they need to get something out of this prayer break to benefit themselves; like why they can't have an extra 15 min break during the day.....if everyone was to benefit from prayer breaks, whether you pray or not, no1 would be complaining.
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Old 24-Aug-2009, 10:45 AM
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You're missing the point.

People who fart around still pretend to work.

It's absolutely inappropriate for me to tell my boss "Sorry, I am going to play a quick round of deathmatch on some new maps I got, I will be late for the meeting."

Prayer is as productive as playing video games.
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Moral of the story is Mr Polkaroo is pretty much full blown ignorant .. always walking around with his Canadian power mentality .. you want more 5 min breaks that bad ... *SMH* Welcome to Canada
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when they pray, you stop working too...when its prayer time, stop, go have a butt in the smoke room, outside or whatever...I used to take smoke breaks all the time when I didnt smoke...when my bosses asked what I was doing I told them I was taking a smoke break even though I didnt smoke...they looked at me funny and left me alone
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Originally Posted by JoonyaSI
Moral of the story is Mr Polkaroo is pretty much full blown ignorant .. always walking around with his Canadian power mentality .. you want more 5 min breaks that bad ... *SMH* Welcome to Canada
How am I ignorant? If I owned a company, I wouldn't give in to these ridiculous demands in regards to 'prayer breaks'. I don't understand what you are talking about, go spin some more records...gangsta
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lol .. your always preaching about some Pro Canada bullshit ... and dont hate cause my records make more than your bullshit cubicle system crap ... talk to me when you can hire and fire staff ...

GANKSTAH !
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Originally Posted by JoonyaSI
and dont hate cause my records make more than your bullshit cubicle system crap

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahhaha *breathe* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha ....you sure you shouldn't be doing stand-up comedy instead of spinning records, cuz you damn funny! Brap Brap!
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lol ... if you only knew man .... the **** i read on here makes me laugh ... makes me wonder how i spent those years stuck in a box ..
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Originally Posted by JoonyaSI
lol ... if you only knew man .... the **** i read on here makes me laugh ... makes me wonder how i spent those years stuck in a box ..
I'm not "stuck in a box" Joonya.
The **** I read on here makes me laugh too.
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you two need to go to a mosque or something
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