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Old 17-Nov-2008, 04:23 PM
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Dwindling property tax revenue has forced local governments in Michigan to look to motorists to refill their municipal budgets, according to a Detroit News analysis. In 2002, the city of Detroit issued a total of 126,007 traffic tickets. Last year, that figure grew to 245,249– a 94 percent jump. The percentage increase was even greater in small towns like Plymouth, which saw the number of tickets skyrocket from 440 to 2,584 — up 487 percent — over the same period. “When I first started in this job thirty years ago, police work was never about revenue enhancement,” Utica Police Chief Michael Reaves told the DetN. “But if you’re a chief now, you have to look at whether your department produces revenues. That’s just the reality nowadays.” Utica issued 3540 tickets in 2003 and 5518 in 2007 — a 56 percent increase. A few communities like Pontiac saw ticket revenue decrease in proportion to the number of police laid off, but eighteen jurisdictions overall reported a ticketing increase of more than fifty percent. The National Motorists Association cited Detroit suburbs as home to the worst speed traps in the country.
“When elected officials say, ‘We need more money,’ they can’t look to the department of public works to raise revenues, so where do they find it? Police departments,” Police Officers Association of Michigan President James Tagnanelli told the News.
Other local police chiefs deny that they use ticket quotas and insist that their sole motivation is to increase public safety through ticketing. Some state officials suggest the obsession with speed is misplaced.
“I’ve spent eight years in traffic services, and I was a crash reconstructionist for five years before that,” Michigan State Police Lieutenant Gary Megge told the News. “So I’ve seen my share of fatal wrecks, and I can tell you: Deaths are not caused by speeding. They’re caused by drinking, drugs and inattentiveness. The old adage that speed kills just isn’t realistic. The safest speed is the speed that is correct for that roadway at a given time. A lot of speed limits are set artificially low.”
The Michigan State Police advocates setting limits according to the 85th percentile rule. This commonly accepted engineering principle is used to determine the legal limit by measuring how fast the vast majority of traffic, 85 percent, travel in safety.
“It just doesn’t seem right to me that we would enforce a law where 90-98 percent of the people are in violation of it,” Lieutenant Megge told the News. “It’s not the way we should do business in this country.”
While Detroit police focused on increasing the number of traffic tickets by 94 percent, every category of serious crime increased significantly. The total number of murders, rapes, robberies, assaults and burglaries increased by 19,370 — a 56 percent jump — between 2002 and 2006.
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Speed limits in Ontario are what they are simply as a mean of a cash grab. I think someone did a study a few years ago and found only 10% of drivers obey 100kph. Going by the 85 percentile rule our highway speeds should be 120+. To think our speed limit hasnt gone up since the 1960s when cars used bias ply tires, drum brakes in the front, handled like yatchs, weighted 2 tons and took probaly 200 feet to stop from 100kph
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Originally Posted by K20EF8
Speed limits in Ontario are what they are simply as a mean of a cash grab. I think someone did a study a few years ago and found only 10% of drivers obey 100kph. Going by the 85 percentile rule our highway speeds should be 120+. To think our speed limit hasnt gone up since the 1960s when cars used bias ply tires, drum brakes in the front, handled like yatchs, weighted 2 tons and took probaly 200 feet to stop from 100kph
lol so true...these speed limits apply to those hoopties from the old days. but isnt it gay that its 100MAXIMUM like thta means the most u can do is 100 atleast if they had it as 120 people who felt comfortable driving 100 could stay in the right lanes...might reduce traffic
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but isnt it gay that its 100MAXIMUM like thta means the most u can do is 100 atleast if they had it as 120 people who felt comfortable driving 100 could stay in the right lanes...might reduce traffic
that would cause more crashes and road rage.
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Old 25-Nov-2008, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by k_r_a_c_k_e_r
that would cause more crashes and road rage.
how? everyone travels at 120 an hour on the high way anyways

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Old 25-Nov-2008, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by k_r_a_c_k_e_r
that would cause more crashes and road rage.
i can deal with that
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Originally Posted by bruce fee
i can deal with that
x2, i can get pieces of **** written off for cash!
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