AzimuthX

Yes, what is a good university for COMPUTER ENGINEERING. Don't bother posting University of Waterloo because in no way I will achieve 94 average in Grade 12. I know that all universities are the same but what are the ones that are really beneficial than others. If its outside of T.O than hey! parents must pay for transportation LoL.

imported_gatherer

I say screw university man go to college I went to RCC and I got 3 diplomas in 2 years (of hard work) D dot T is there now too.

diplomas I picked up from that school:

electronics engineering technican
electronics engineering technology
Computer Networks engineering technology

and 1 I got just for me:

Computer Internet systems engineering technology

and I now I have a great job working at cell phone company and getting paid enough to sit here and post on this board all evening (during the day I'm at home posting on this board)

thats my professional opinion, please ignore the advice of guidance councelors that say go to univeristy you can't be anything without going to university, it's BS go to college better chance of getting a job afterwards.

need help applying just ask.

ask D dot T his opinion of the school I've been gone since sept 2001 he's still there.

gatherer

AzimuthX

Well basically University - Theory and Engineering - Theory, not practical so it would be more logical to enroll in university education instead of community college.

If I were to goto RCC, what courses would you recommend to get a good job in relation to computers, I have always like to disassemble electronics and see whats inside and than demolish them but basically I have high interests in computer hardware, I have been building computers since I was 11-12. Gain great knowledge within the 6 years of owning a computer.

SilverCRXSi

You could try Laurier, but I'm in college so I'm not too sure.
Doesn't U of T have a good program?

Shokker

You could go to York. It's a new Engineering program, and it's fairly good. I'm in first year Comp Eng at York and it's not bad.

York might have a bad rep, but this program is coming along nicely if I do say so myself. They hired some really smart professors who they 'stole' from the Canadian Gov't etc..

imported_gatherer

no because employers laugh at you when you say you have lots of theory knowledge I know a guy who went to university got his electronics engineering degree and went for a job interview at a printing company. the interviewer asked the guy to explain in detail, what he was able to figure out about a circuit board from a printer he was handed. the interviewer left him alone with the board for 10 minutes then came back ask the guy couldn't answer him. so in the end my friend didn't get the job and I'm sure the interviewer pissed himself laughing at him afterwards. anyways my friend got to keep the board, and lets just say with my practical knowledge it tyook me about 5 minutes to have a basic understanding of the board 10 to get a better girp (which probably would have been enough) and at 15 minutes since I started I had a diagram of how it worked. in the end employers want practical knowledge, the company I work for will not hire someone that has not got a diploma from a COLLEGE, reason why is because "we want doers not thinkers, anybody can think stuff up, it's the doers that actually get stuff done" (thats what my boss said my first day on the job.

as for RCC college of technology, you enrol in a program your choices are these 2:

1) electronics technican
2) computer networks technican

the program for each of these is 1 year long from september to september 2 weeks break at christmas and 2 weeks in the summer. 8 to 5 everyday monday to friday.

they give you a schedule to be followed should you complete 1 of those 2 you then have an option to go for the technologist part of the program which is 6 more months of of the same sort of schedule. September to march

should you have completed the following:

electronics technican
electronics technologist

you then have the option of doing a 6 month (probably longer now ) bridge course and getting the computer networks technologist post diploma diploma.

In the end what you've discribed as your knowledge won't even scratch the stuff you'll learn on the first day at RCC.

Trust me college is better IMO. and also RCC is a private college, so you'll get rapped on the tuition and **** but the knowledge is well worth it I'm 20 grand it debt after 2 years.... (avg is 26 grand in debt coming out of there). but I tell you this without that education I would not have the job I have now and be paying down those loans as fast as I am. for a 4 year degree your looking at the same amount of money to be spent and you'll just have a degree and a bunch of theories.

with rcc 3 diploma and more practical knowledge then you can shake a stick at.

as for which one would be good for you I don't know you all that well but you said you like compuetr hardware. well if you want a job actually designing and building the circuits on the boards (like your motherboard or video card) then go for electronics Technican course and go for all 3 diplomas.

just my 4 cents worth

AzimuthX

Heh I got mixed up of RCC and a university but found them out, wow they are really close to York (Dufferin + Steeles), now I am having second thoughts, Computer Engineer or the programs at RCC, so confused.

imported_gatherer

RCC website as per your request.

best bet is call and make arrangements to see the school it's small (500 students) but it's a good school

sam

AzimuthX - don't get sooo single tracked to only go after Comp Eng or engineering in general... Looking back, I think now that I wouldv'e done better in CS@UW then engineering, been at the same place I am now, and had a hellv'e better time to boot... keep your options open

BTW it's more like 96+ to get into Comp eng @ UW.. with 94, you can only get into like civil.. haha

12aiderfan166

Hey Aznmuthx, i also live in markham, do you go to FMM?

Go to U of T

sir168

Some universities offer co-op program which allows you to get working experience. You should consider those universities.

imported_gatherer

yes work experince is good however actually getting a job for the coop part is a pain in the ***(lots of friends tried that route) RCC all the way!!!

AzimuthX

Im so confused, I thought I was set guess its different now. Still debating Computer Engineer and Technologist but it seems Im heading towards RCC College of Technology as a Electronic Engineering Technologist.

Basically who will make more $ / get a job
ENG or Technologist.

Thanks, mostly ENG have 4 years w/ co-op BTW.

And many thanks to gatherer for the info, seems like a RCC representative knowing all the facts

imported_gatherer

ok technologist will make more to start out with engineer will make more in the end so you do this (maybe I should have explained this on the phone call) you start off at RCC get your technologist then lakehead will knock 3 years off the 5 year degree program for electronics engineer degree so you then transfer there for 2 years in the end you've gone to RCC for 18 months and have 2 diplomas and you've gone to lakehead for 2 years after that and have a degree so 3.5 years since you started at RCC you'll have 2 diplomas a degree and a whole **** load of people wanting to hire you

imported_MY SiR

IMO, If you have your mind set on Engineering and you don't want to (can't get in to) go to Waterloo, I would recommend U of T. Especially if you want to work outside of Canada for any amount of time. Why? Name value. When I was in Japan, no one ever even heard of Waterloo. U of T, some people heard of. U of T also has an optional Co-op program.

Personally, I studied Mech Eng at U of T (okay, I am biased...but aren't we all?). Why Mech? I love cars and I knew I wanted to do that. Why didn't I go to Centennial for a technologist program (I did apply there BTW)? Engineering was the most difficult thing to get into in the field I was intersted in. I figured, I would try if. If I failed, I had something else to go back on (technology program). I didn't want to end up some time in the future and wondering "What if...?"

Surprisingly, I graduated and I am now an Engineer. I don't have any school debts, I own my cars. The only thing I am paying for is my mortgage on my condo....

Just my $0.02

Mark

sir168

You are very hard sell.

imported_gatherer

sir168 look at my next post after that

sir168

This is just how I feel.....

imported_gatherer

well ok for the record I gain nothing by advertising the school I went to (RCC) I just think it was great going there, D dot T goes there now and he mioght have a different opinion.... you'd have to ask him

AzimuthX

Where can you find job opportunities information, like new graduates have a XX% jobrate. My cousin's bf is taking his last year in Engineering (4 years + 1 internship) and he is having difficulties finding job.