carbon fiber stronger than steel?
04-May-2003, 01:08 AM
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Research strengths of materials...
Some materials are stronger than others, but only in certain ways. For instantce nlyon rope is stronger than concrete, in Tension. But in compression, concrete is way better...
This is an entire subject on its own. Don't touch it.
Some materials are stronger than others, but only in certain ways. For instantce nlyon rope is stronger than concrete, in Tension. But in compression, concrete is way better...
This is an entire subject on its own. Don't touch it.
04-May-2003, 11:29 PM
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Carbon fiber are for the weight concerned people. McLaren F1s are made completely out of Carbon Fiber and Titanium for rims.
Carbon fiber body. It's strong and safe enough in layers and yet light.. however... steel is stronger but substancially heavier.
Carbon fiber body. It's strong and safe enough in layers and yet light.. however... steel is stronger but substancially heavier.
05-May-2003, 12:07 AM
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IMO i think that the same hood carbon fiber and steel CF would be stronger but if ur saying there is gonna be thicker steel then ya obviously stell isgonna be stronger
like the mugen CF hood my friend has on his S2000 when he went to go pick it up they took that hood and ran it over with a car no scratches or broken try doing that with a stock hood
like the mugen CF hood my friend has on his S2000 when he went to go pick it up they took that hood and ran it over with a car no scratches or broken try doing that with a stock hood
05-May-2003, 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by B16A_SiR
IMO i think that the same hood carbon fiber and steel CF would be stronger but if ur saying there is gonna be thicker steel then ya obviously stell isgonna be stronger
like the mugen CF hood my friend has on his S2000 when he went to go pick it up they took that hood and ran it over with a car no scratches or broken try doing that with a stock hood
IMO i think that the same hood carbon fiber and steel CF would be stronger but if ur saying there is gonna be thicker steel then ya obviously stell isgonna be stronger
like the mugen CF hood my friend has on his S2000 when he went to go pick it up they took that hood and ran it over with a car no scratches or broken try doing that with a stock hood
the cf hood would be all over the lot
05-May-2003, 08:37 AM
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You are comparing apples to oranges... can't even compare the two. Plus, the strength of both depends highly on how they were designed and built. A good carbon fiber hood is strong enough to be structural (as evidenced by the monocoque chassis of the LeMans cars). HOWEVER!!!! Most hoods that you buy on the market today are actaully fibergrass hoods with one layer of cabon fiber on top just for looks. And yes, fiberglass is light too.
05-May-2003, 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
You are comparing apples to oranges... can't even compare the two. Plus, the strength of both depends highly on how they were designed and built. A good carbon fiber hood is strong enough to be structural (as evidenced by the monocoque chassis of the LeMans cars). HOWEVER!!!! Most hoods that you buy on the market today are actaully fibergrass hoods with one layer of cabon fiber on top just for looks. And yes, fiberglass is light too.
You are comparing apples to oranges... can't even compare the two. Plus, the strength of both depends highly on how they were designed and built. A good carbon fiber hood is strong enough to be structural (as evidenced by the monocoque chassis of the LeMans cars). HOWEVER!!!! Most hoods that you buy on the market today are actaully fibergrass hoods with one layer of cabon fiber on top just for looks. And yes, fiberglass is light too.
05-May-2003, 09:35 AM
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Here's some proof that CF isn't as fragile as some of you think...
pic after an accident
some videos
CF Video 1
CF Video 2
CF Video 3
These pics and videos were taken from http://www.fiberimages.com/
pic after an accident
some videos
CF Video 1
CF Video 2
CF Video 3
These pics and videos were taken from http://www.fiberimages.com/
05-May-2003, 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by OcTaNeTeDdY
agreed here... It all depends on how well the part is constructed... A well constructed CF hood can survive an accident with only scratches.. they will pop back to original shape by themselves well sometimes.... CF is very flexible...
agreed here... It all depends on how well the part is constructed... A well constructed CF hood can survive an accident with only scratches.. they will pop back to original shape by themselves well sometimes.... CF is very flexible...
Nice picture below!
05-May-2003, 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by NoSpleeny
Ohhhh! That would mean a McLaren F1 that gets into an accident would pop back into shape! THat's so wicked!!!
Nice picture below!
Ohhhh! That would mean a McLaren F1 that gets into an accident would pop back into shape! THat's so wicked!!!
Nice picture below!
05-May-2003, 09:57 AM
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Holy crap!
Thats some high quality ****.
I guess if its made to the right specs and of high quality materials, it can be very strong.
I read an article awhile back where they are experimenting with using CF valves in race car engines. They had a pic of the braided cf valves, looked like some wierd flowers or something.
Thats some high quality ****.
I guess if its made to the right specs and of high quality materials, it can be very strong.
I read an article awhile back where they are experimenting with using CF valves in race car engines. They had a pic of the braided cf valves, looked like some wierd flowers or something.
05-May-2003, 10:01 AM
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05-May-2003, 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by PolskiSi
Holy crap!
Thats some high quality ****.
I guess if its made to the right specs and of high quality materials, it can be very strong.
I read an article awhile back where they are experimenting with using CF valves in race car engines. They had a pic of the braided cf valves, looked like some wierd flowers or something.
Holy crap!
Thats some high quality ****.
I guess if its made to the right specs and of high quality materials, it can be very strong.
I read an article awhile back where they are experimenting with using CF valves in race car engines. They had a pic of the braided cf valves, looked like some wierd flowers or something.
