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Old 24-Mar-2010, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rick10
I think he meant that his insurance is collision only or one way. Meaning if it is 50/50 he does not get a new car or his car fix.

I may be wrong by he meant but if i m right then it damn sucks. Fight it until the end

No no....you got it right
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gizZzmo
No no....you got it right

that's what I thought .. Feel your pain bud , i m on the same boat. I m trying to save up some money so my civic its on collision only. Damn insurances keep going up ... At least you could part it out i guess
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rick10
that's what I thought .. Feel your pain bud , i m on the same boat. I m trying to save up some money so my civic its on collision only. Damn insurances keep going up ... At least you could part it out i guess
Yep....sucks quite a bit. If you dont mind me asking...did you have something similar (50/50) or was it 100% at fault?
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gizZzmo
Yep....sucks quite a bit. If you dont mind me asking...did you have something similar (50/50) or was it 100% at fault?

Back in the days i was involved in an accident with my dads van , 100 at fault . I had to pay to fix my dads van.
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rick10
Back in the days i was involved in an accident with my dads van , 100 at fault . I had to pay to fix my dads van.

Ya....damn. Sorry to hear. And I take it they keep on bumping up your rates
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gizZzmo
Ya....damn. Sorry to hear. And I take it they keep on bumping up your rates

I had my civic and mazda full coverage a couple of years ago , after 2-3 years with no tickets and accidents my insurance went up , so now I m paying the same amount for one way that i did for full coverage years ago ( maybe a little less but still close). If i went full coverage I will be paying a lot more ...

You can still part out the car or maybe try to fix it . I dont know the condition of the engine
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 03:26 PM
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I would still say fight it until the end .

But if you do decide to fix it , it will cost you at least 2000-3000 ( parts , labour , paint ) . If you part it out you may be able to get 1500-2000 depending on the condition of the parts .

So lets say you do get 2000 in parts plus 2000 you will still have to spend to fix up your car ( maybe even more) you are at 4000 for a new car. You can still get a decent civic for 4000-5000 $

The worst part is that the damn accident goes in your record. I had mine for 6 years and it hurts , specially when you get new quotes. Like i said try ti fight until the end.
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rick10
I had my civic and mazda full coverage a couple of years ago , after 2-3 years with no tickets and accidents my insurance went up , so now I m paying the same amount for one way that i did for full coverage years ago ( maybe a little less but still close). If i went full coverage I will be paying a lot more ...

You can still part out the car or maybe try to fix it . I dont know the condition of the engine

Luckily engine seems perrrfect. ran well after the fact so at least thats a plus. I will have to decide on which way to proceed. But if I am not 100% cleared of Liability, I will absolutely fight it till the end. But forsure, the worst part of the entire ordeal is the chance of spotting an otherwise perfect record.
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999blksi
25-30km/h would be inaccurate but explain how you go that speed pls
as i said, its a guesstimation. stomp on the gas off the line, within 30m [1st gear] should be able to reach speeds as such. That is obviously if you launch the car and hook.
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Originally Posted by 1999blksi
60mph=100km/h
As you mentioned ~ 26m/second....so to travel 30m we will say it took him 1.1 seconds.

if he can do 100km/h in 7.7seconds, that means 100/7.7= speed per second

Answer: He was going APPROXIMATELY 13km/h.

Does not make any sense. so lets say if the same car does 0-200km/h [and we all know that at higher speeds acceleration is at loss due to gearing] in about 25s, does your answer still match up? no it does not.
why don't you guys go out and measure 30m, then launch a car at WOT and see how much you accelerate.
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by scrid3r
Acceleration is a curve of change of speed. Every second causes the car to accelerate, not always the same due to different gearing. First of all you need the force, weight and mechanical advantage ratio (gear ratio).
You cannot just take the time it took to accelerate 0-60mph and use the information. Now if you had something to compare it with you could make a guestimation which again wouldn't be exact due to mechanical advantage.
I would say maybe 25-30km/h but that's just a guess. Again do not underestimate speeds like 30km/h. If the driver didn't brake or was even braking and impact occured at 30km/h that still does a LOT of damage.
Your best bet would be find a video on youtube of somebody doing 0-x km/h and count second for let's say 0-50km/h. So then atleast you have a comparison and rate of acceleration. And no, diving the 0-100km/h by 2 will NOT give you an accurate answer.
GL but you will never find an accurate answer unless you find out all the unknowns I mentioned above.

Your post makes sense, and you're right. I wanted a ball park figure but I imagine that because acceleration is not constant, the actual speed assuming WOT acceleration over a distance of 30 meters will be greater than 14 km/h.

Im trying to find out the unknown variables: such as curb weight of the car (obviously it was not empty at the time, but nonetheless) & gear ratio etc.. to give me a more precise answer.

BTW...does anyone know of any good/reliable sites that give a wealth of info/specs about a particular vehicle i.e. (curb weight, hp, acceleration, gear ratio, etc etc etc)
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 09:06 PM
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From the pictures, I would say roughly 40-50 km/h...
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Old 24-Mar-2010, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gizZzmo
EXACTLY. pretty much bang on with what i got (8.72 miles or 14 kph). Now... is 14 kph likely to do something like this? Definitely not. Meaning he did not stop



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This is just a rought estimate to fix your car. If you can do some work yourself

Used hood - 100-150 dollars ( seen some on used parts)
fender- About 75 each ( thats how much i paid for one at the junyard)
front bumper- 100 ( thats how much it cost me to replace mine)
Front headlights - 200 for the pair ( probably less )
Front grill - 50 bucks ( type r)

So to rebuilt your front end you are looking at around 600-700$ with used parts , plus you can do most of the work yourself. I changed the fender of my civic in 2 hours and it wasnt too hard .

To paint your front end you are looking at 400-700 depending on where you go, I actually got my whole car painted for 1000

So if you are lucky enough you could rebuilt your front end for a 1000 $ ( if you are lucky again !)...

Just by looking at the damage you may need a new radiator , and a few other parts.. I dont know about your suspension as an expert will probably have to look down there.

If you are really lucky you may actually fix up the car for 1000-1500 , of course you will have to do some work of your own (finding cheaps parts and installing them) .. So its not all bad news i guess...
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Old 25-Mar-2010, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rick10
This is just a rought estimate to fix your car. If you can do some work yourself

Used hood - 100-150 dollars ( seen some on used parts)
fender- About 75 each ( thats how much i paid for one at the junyard)
front bumper- 100 ( thats how much it cost me to replace mine)
Front headlights - 200 for the pair ( probably less )
Front grill - 50 bucks ( type r)

So to rebuilt your front end you are looking at around 600-700$ with used parts , plus you can do most of the work yourself. I changed the fender of my civic in 2 hours and it wasnt too hard .

To paint your front end you are looking at 400-700 depending on where you go, I actually got my whole car painted for 1000

So if you are lucky enough you could rebuilt your front end for a 1000 $ ( if you are lucky again !)...

Just by looking at the damage you may need a new radiator , and a few other parts.. I dont know about your suspension as an expert will probably have to look down there.

If you are really lucky you may actually fix up the car for 1000-1500 , of course you will have to do some work of your own (finding cheaps parts and installing them) .. So its not all bad news i guess...


Yup..those are respectable quotes. Need radiator + all the parts you mentioned above. Hope my suspension setup is alright (koni yellows + h&r springs)... So yes, in that sense, its not "all" bad news....Most importantly however, is why should I be out of pocket; be it $1000 or $1 if I was driving responsibly and am not at fault?
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Its surprising that your car has so much damage and the other car has very minor damage.
Your rad support may be pushed in. I'm assuming he hit you on the driver side corner? May also have some frame damage.
And don't bother with those calculations, it gets quite complicated with applying forces/weight/mechanical advantage. If I have enough free time and am bored enough I may just do it. What year/trim was the accord?
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Old 25-Mar-2010, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by scrid3r
Its surprising that your car has so much damage and the other car has very minor damage.
Your rad support may be pushed in. I'm assuming he hit you on the driver side corner? May also have some frame damage.
And don't bother with those calculations, it gets quite complicated with applying forces/weight/mechanical advantage. If I have enough free time and am bored enough I may just do it. What year/trim was the accord?
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Originally Posted by scrid3r
Does not make any sense. so lets say if the same car does 0-200km/h [and we all know that at higher speeds acceleration is at loss due to gearing] in about 25s, does your answer still match up? no it does not.
why don't you guys go out and measure 30m, then launch a car at WOT and see how much you accelerate.
so you think he was going 25 - 30km/h?

if so, that's not possible.
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Originally Posted by 1999blksi
so you think he was going 25 - 30km/h?

if so, that's not possible.
Go on a street and do a pull in 1st gear. within 30m you will get up to a speed of 25km/h++
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Old 25-Mar-2010, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gizZzmo
Yup..those are respectable quotes. Need radiator + all the parts you mentioned above. Hope my suspension setup is alright (koni yellows + h&r springs)... So yes, in that sense, its not "all" bad news....Most importantly however, is why should I be out of pocket; be it $1000 or $1 if I was driving responsibly and am not at fault?

I know what you mean. But life is not fair !

I hit my car 2 months ago in my garage because i was late for work . 700$ to fix it !!! ... My wife did the samething last year and it cost us 1000 $..Money that I could of use for something else went to the garbage.
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