Cynikal.Mindset

when I buy some...mine are donzo...well 2 of them are atleast...

BOND007

I has been proven on many occaisions that below 7 degress winter tires give you better traction then an alll season even if there is no snow or ice on the ground.

Double B

Tire companies had everyone believing that all season tires were the way to go. Years ago, people use to change to winter tires all the time. Then they came out with all seasons and sold everyone on them. You take a look at any test that are done now(and I have seen them in documentaries on tv), snow tires do make a huge difference. The one test I did see was driving two Chrysler 300 on a skating rink, one with all seasons and one with winter. The stopping distance between the two was huge.

Since I went to winters last year, I have noticed a big difference in how the car handles in the snow.

Oh and for another note, (this will show how old I am) back in the day when I was growing up in Montreal, they use to have chains on the rear tires. This was before the fwd cars were coming into play.

Fr0z3N

Yeah but looking at it from a student's view... I could get a bigger turbo for under $600, I could build my bottom end for under $600, I could get a proper paint job for $600 I could get a brand new lip kit for under $600 I could get soooo many things for under $600.

Pyro

and none of that matters if you lose control just once and wreck your car. safety first.

xray

I do remember the chains, but do you remeber that you can bring in your car and the drill rivets right on your all season tires. Look like cleats but for tires.

Cynikal.Mindset

studded tires are wicked, cant have em in ontario though...but quebecers can still rock them

Tiny

Well said. I've got Michelin X-Ice's on mine. I've found them to be amazing. Agreed, it's an added expense but, we're dealing with people's lives here. If getting snow tires means, it will help me stop sooner so I don't slam into the kid running across the street, then it's all worth it. Let's even forget the kid and say someone cut me off and I was able to swerve away and avoid a deadly accident and regain control of the car because I've got winter tires on, then sign me up for a set. Safety first should be your priority. Afterall, when all said and done for all the mod'ers out there who invest in modifying their cars, wouldn't you want to safe guard your car from dangerous situations like that? Let's say you are content with all seasons - you are able to manage your driving habbits to the driving conditions. That's great. But, what if the guy driving next to you looses control and is about to hit you - wouldn't you want to be confident in yourself and your car that you'll be able to slow down and avoid the collision? That's all we're saying.

Double B

And they don't have to be top of the line winter tires. In the end you spend now, but you are actually saving yourself money. Think about it, you are only using them in the winter months and your all season or your summer tires the other time, not all year round. My father in law picked up his steelies and his tires brand new cheap for his Accord.

I think if anyone that owns a car and cannot afford to put snow tires on as an excuse, I would hate to see what other safety items they are neglecting because it doesn't factor into cost for them.

Mashimaro

student or not, $600 isn't a lot of money when it comes to safety.

maybe it's just me, but i can't really see $600 going a long way in terms of upgrading car parts (ie: Gt28R ~ $1000, sleeving a block by Golden Eagle = $1300, 'proper' paint job = $3000, front lip alone = $300+ for a name brand lip).

the added bonus is milking the life of your summer tires. i'd rather have dedicated summer and winters, instead of all seasons like the Falken Ziex 512 tires, but that's just me

Mandy

Exactly like me.

cibs

I was a student too when I saved up and bought winter tires for my civic before I got this car. It's about priority.

What good is your turbo or new bottom end when your tires slip and won't grip any traction?

What good is your paint job when you slip and slide into a car infront of you even if it's not a major accident you're going to have to repaint the bumper or something... another few hundred... and if there's more damage you're even more screwed. Also insurance might go up for the next what... 5 yrs?

Same with a lip kit.

I still don't get it... all that stuff is superfluous if you don't have good tires on your car.

Do you go snowboarding with a fancy new outfit and a board that's falling apart cuz you'd rather have a new fancy coat even tho you're gonna spend all your time on your *** cuz your board sucks?

Do you play basketball wearing the latest jordan gear but leather flip flop sandals because you didn't want to spend money on actual shoes?

I can go on forever...

xray

If you can't afford winter tires, even though you're a student, you can't afford to drive the car. The sad thing is I see most students on here are getting rid of their cars to go back to school. Just hit up your parents for some cash and tell them it's for your own safety. I'm sure they can't say no. And the best thing is that you can pay them back when you do get some money.

redlineracer

I just put mine on today after work.......my EF looks sooo ugly now that the SiR rims are off and the stock 13's are on! .....drives wicked fast now but just looks sooooo weird lol

EFSiR

Where can you get a proper paint job for under 6 bills?

Speaking of prices, last year I switched to Walmart's WINTERMARK (if I remember the name right). I also have a set of high end witer tires on my wife's car. (Toyo Garrit HT)

$48 per tire at walmart vs. $140ish per tire

NOT MUCH DIFF! TOyo's stick more but I could not justify the price now.

Fr0z3N

Where the hell do you shop???

Pick up a 14b turbo... $150, pick up a 16g $200, pick up a bastard 20g $500.

Pick up vitara pistons and npr rings $150

Pick up TT forged rods $250

Mugen/Type R lip $80 at teknotik

Rather spend my time on my *** in a nice coat then a ratty old coat that I'd get soaking wet because its so crappy. Because face it, if you go to the terrain park you're gunna spend 50% of the time on your ***

Proper paint job??? most students paint their car flat black, so I'm gunna say macco is as proper as a student will get. Unless they plan on making their first car which is a 20 yr old civic into a show car and pay double what the car's worth for a paint job.

Pyro

speak for yourself. not everyone sucks at snowboarding.

oh and how do you know most students paint their car flat black? what do you have to justify that statement? i'd argue that most students don't paint their car period.

Mashimaro

haha, i've listed above the stuff and name brands of where i, personally, would shop for those types of things (most stores sell a Garrett GT28R turbo, new, for at least $1000CAD). i believe in the term, 'you gotta pay to play'. and since you mentioned vitara pistons, i assume you're talking prices for a D-series then...my mistake.

anyways, it's your car and your safety. only you can decide if it's something you should invest in or not.

Fr0z3N

Every student I know with a civic has painted it flat black for various reasons, including myself.

ps. when I said most students I mean the ones who own their own car/civic.

Pyro

i'm a student...i own my civic...i haven't painted it flat black nor do i plan to.

when you say, every student you know i highly doubt that reflects students as a whole. you can't say cause you know 10 students who own a civic and all of them painted it flat black that it can be concluded that most students who own a civic do, even if you narrow it down to just one institution. Take a walk around one of your school parking lots, assume that only 25% of students own their cars, and 100% flat black cars are student owned. What is the ratio of flat black civics to the number equivilent to 25% of all civics in the lot? I highly doubt the answer will be "most" which would imply a clear majority well over 50%