Thoughts on (Turbo kit)
 

I finally got a job lol and now plan on saving money to get my jdm d15b turbo'd for spring/summer.

I was looking at the Greddy 15g but I think this kit would be a lot better and it looks like a great value with both quality products and and decent price.

I would like to hear your thoughts on this kit, I'm looking to have a reliable 200-220whp so I'll visit zeeman when time comes :)


LINK GO-AUTOWORKS Turbo Kits

Item Description
GO-AUTOWORKS Street Kit
The GO-AUTOWORKS Street Turbo System is our entry level system offered for those that are looking for a great kit, that has good power potential at an affordable price. Great for stock block setups! The system is capable or 250-350hp and easily upgradeable! The Street system uses the same great quality brands as our higher end systems, so quality is not sacrificed at all.

System Contents:

- GO-AUTOWORKS Cast Iron Manifold

- GO-AUTOWORKS SS 2.5" downpipe ---------I would get a 3" DP

- GO-AUTOWORKS dumptube

- Garrett T3 Super 60 or Bullseye Power Turbocharger

- Tial 38mm silver wastegate

- Tial 50mm silver blow off valve

- complete oiling kit

- GO-AUTOWORKS tuner charge pipe kit

- GO-AUTOWORKS bar & plate intercooler

- (6) high quality silicone reinforced couplers

- (12) stainless T bolt clamps

** SUBSTITUTE A Bullseye Power turbocharger now at no additional charge. Choose from the T04B V or M trim turbocharger!!**---------Out of all three turbos which would be the best to pick.

thanks :)

The Garrett T3 Super 60 snail alone costs about $700-800.
Not a bad kit at all :thumb:

If this is a street car, a T3 60 trim is a bit big for a d15. You won't be in it's efficiency range until 4000rpm +. Which means not much boost, if any, below 4000.

Of those 3 turbos, any one of them will work well, but all seem a bit large for a street application on a d15 imo.

Looks like a nice Kit for a decent price though.

Don't forget the most important part, tuning and fuel system upgrade. That doesn't seem to be included in the kit, so you'll have to price that out seperately as well.

^ Really? I thought for sure he'd see boost in the 3K range with this charger.

And yes, tuning and your fuel system upgrade are very important, if not, the most important.

Well, I'm speaking from my experience with our MR2 which we are running a t3 60 trim turbo on the 1.6L 4agze engine. We don't see much boost below 3500 at best. I don't know how close the t3 super 60 in this kit is to the t3 60 trim we are running, but is it's near the same size and the efficiency range is similar, I'd guess it to be a more 'top end' turbo then a more street friendly, mid-range turbo.

I don't know too much about the t04b turbos so I can't really say much about them.

I'm in the exact same shoes. Wanna go boost on a budget. And for us in Canada, i priced it out, its cheaper to go with a Kit coz individual shipping charges will kill us.

Check out this kit: Honda Civic SI, B, D, CRX Series Turbo Kit - TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

I've done research on hondatech and people seem to make good power with it. Treadstone has great intercoolers, and if you upgrade to the Tial 38mm WG and a better BOV, it ends up being the same price as your kit there. But with this kit, its proven to be quality.

As for turbo size, this site really helped me figure out the differences between T3/T4 hybrid chargers:
Turbonetics T3 & T3/T4 Turbochargers: T3/T04B, T3/T04E, 50, 60

Straight from Garett: TurboByGarrett.com - Turbo Tech102


So in general (correct me if im wrong) turbos sizes differ in:
- Extruder size (turbine wheel size) --> intruder less so (intake side)
- Area Ratio (inlet diameter / turbine radius) --> intake side

together (i think) these traits will determine:
- where you spool
- your powerband
- how much PSI you need to boost on to reach your goal

^ WOW that looks like a great kit to, I really like that you can upgrade the bov.......I love the greddy rs :)

both around the same price too.

Anyone know which kit would be best to reach my goals, faster spool etc
Thanks

the t3/t04b V-trim is a great turbo for a d15b from my experiences.

If you want it to make boost below 4000rpms don't expect good power at 7000+rpms, turbos only have so big of an efficiency range. Smaller turbos will spool quicker but make less power up top, where hondas really shine and make good power.

I'm at the shop now, i'll print out a copy of the last d15b I did with a t3/t04b V-trim. It made roughly 210whp 180wtq at 8psi.

I think I'm going to get the go autoworks kit with the garret super 60 t3 cause that kit comes with a tial bov and wastegate that comes with a dump pipe. What else do I need hondata?

As for the dp should I just get the 2.5 cause I just plan on getting that kit keeping the d15b stock and if later I want more power ill head back to my roots buy another s13 and do the rb25det swap :)

you don't NEED hondata. Neptune is a cheaper alternative b/c there is no hardware required other than a chipped obd1 ecu. You simply pay the Neptune license fee and the authorized tuner/dealer's tuning fee and then they will tune your car. I am an authorized Neptune dealer.

With the Hondata, you need to buy the S300 then pay someone to tune it, unless you're planning on doing the tuning yourself, even then the Neptune Demon (similar to the S300 unit from Hondata, but a little better IMO) is about $200 cheaper and offers all of the features that the S300 does and even some more that are unique to Neptune.

That go autoworks is priced very well for what it comes with. All you need is a set of bigger (450cc or so) injectors and a 255lph fuel pump, a set of 1-step colder spark plugs gapped to .032", a boost gauge and a tune.

The 2.5" downpipe will be fine, i've made over 300whp on 2.5" exhaust in the past.

Thanks ill make a list of all the parts and start saving :)
a couple other questions, what spring rate should i get for the tial 50mm bov & 38mm wastegate ? also do i need a boost controller

thanks zeeman your a lot of help and I plan on asking you to do my tune when shes ready.

well you'll need a boost controller if you want to run more boost than what the spring in your wastegate is set for. So if you have a 7psi spring in the wastegate and you want to run 10psi you'll need a boost controller to turn it up, either that or you'll need to get a 10psi spring for your wastegate.

ok running that setup and looking to get 200-220 whp which option would be best from your experience, get a 10 psi spring or get a boost controller? and if I do need a boost C will this one work well

GReddy Boost Controller - Profec B Spec II, or do you know of cheaper ones?

Thanks again man
o and my civic is running great by the way vtec kicks nice lol for a d15b...thanks for wiring that up for me :)

It's a good idea to run a lower psi spring in the waste gate and run a boost controller. That gives you more tuning options.

There are cheaper/easier ways to run a boost controller then using that Greddy unit. Zeeman will fill you in on that.

The profec B is a decent electronic boost controller from my experiences. If you can fit it in your budget an electronic boost controller is far superior to a manual boost controller in every way.

My concern about just running a 10psi spring would be, what if you don't make the power you're looking for at 10psi? You would have no way to turn up the boost to reach your power goal.

I'm not saying that setup wouldn't make 200-220whp on a d15b, i'm just thinking worst case scenario.

Ok then ill budget for that boost controller and keep what ever spring comes in it. With all the parts listed above I should have a sold turbo install or do you see anything else?

Thanks zeeman :)