Stripped rear seats illegal or not?
05-Oct-2005, 05:59 PM
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CF doesn't absorb impact?
I was watching a show in Discovery yesterday.
It was about F1 cars.
Which are made out of carbon fibre.
They make them out of carbon fibre because it absorbs impact just as good as the metal that they used to use.
Understandable the way they put it together is different then how a hood or door would be put together.
But CF still does absob impact.
I was watching a show in Discovery yesterday.
It was about F1 cars.
Which are made out of carbon fibre.
They make them out of carbon fibre because it absorbs impact just as good as the metal that they used to use.
Understandable the way they put it together is different then how a hood or door would be put together.
But CF still does absob impact.
05-Oct-2005, 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Spiderman
CF doesn't absorb impact?
I was watching a show in Discovery yesterday.
It was about F1 cars.
Which are made out of carbon fibre.
They make them out of carbon fibre because it absorbs impact just as good as the metal that they used to use.
Understandable the way they put it together is different then how a hood or door would be put together.
But CF still does absob impact.
CF doesn't absorb impact?
I was watching a show in Discovery yesterday.
It was about F1 cars.
Which are made out of carbon fibre.
They make them out of carbon fibre because it absorbs impact just as good as the metal that they used to use.
Understandable the way they put it together is different then how a hood or door would be put together.
But CF still does absob impact.
CF DOES NOT ABSORB IMPACT ON A STREET CAR AS WELL AS METAL DOES.
You are comparing a streel car with CF hood/doors to a multi million dollars worth of engineering, testing and build?
Get back to reality. Those cars are built a completely different way and the structural integrity of the F1 chassis is setup to low key handling and performance. The car is BUILT out of CF to be
a) light
b) safe
Why wouldn't they use CF for F1 cars? it's light and with proper build and structure it will work and be very safe.
But see kid, we aren't talking about F1 cars. We are talking about a car used for the circuit track or the street with a CF hood and/or doors. If you get into an accident with either parts you will see yourself that CF dosen't do a proper job as a "bolt on" part. Once again to your comparisson, F1 cars are built as halfs/whole exterior chasis case so it's been build for impact if it comes to that.
05-Oct-2005, 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Tego
Aren't aftermarket CF accesories not eve real carbon fiber? its fiberglass with a CF overlay or some **** like that.
Aren't aftermarket CF accesories not eve real carbon fiber? its fiberglass with a CF overlay or some **** like that.
Well depending on the product, manu. and price.
Bomex may make some good quality race spoilers for circuit track events in japan. APC will make a "CF" spoiler which will generally be plastic with one layer of CF over it to give it a look or they will be painted.
Depending on the quality and brand then product will be more "real" then crap you find on ebay and at most import shops.
06-Oct-2005, 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by mugen_r
What a comparission.
CF DOES NOT ABSORB IMPACT ON A STREET CAR AS WELL AS METAL DOES.
You are comparing a streel car with CF hood/doors to a multi million dollars worth of engineering, testing and build?
Get back to reality. Those cars are built a completely different way and the structural integrity of the F1 chassis is setup to low key handling and performance. The car is BUILT out of CF to be
a) light
b) safe
Why wouldn't they use CF for F1 cars? it's light and with proper build and structure it will work and be very safe.
But see kid, we aren't talking about F1 cars. We are talking about a car used for the circuit track or the street with a CF hood and/or doors. If you get into an accident with either parts you will see yourself that CF dosen't do a proper job as a "bolt on" part. Once again to your comparisson, F1 cars are built as halfs/whole exterior chasis case so it's been build for impact if it comes to that.
What a comparission.
CF DOES NOT ABSORB IMPACT ON A STREET CAR AS WELL AS METAL DOES.
You are comparing a streel car with CF hood/doors to a multi million dollars worth of engineering, testing and build?
Get back to reality. Those cars are built a completely different way and the structural integrity of the F1 chassis is setup to low key handling and performance. The car is BUILT out of CF to be
a) light
b) safe
Why wouldn't they use CF for F1 cars? it's light and with proper build and structure it will work and be very safe.
But see kid, we aren't talking about F1 cars. We are talking about a car used for the circuit track or the street with a CF hood and/or doors. If you get into an accident with either parts you will see yourself that CF dosen't do a proper job as a "bolt on" part. Once again to your comparisson, F1 cars are built as halfs/whole exterior chasis case so it's been build for impact if it comes to that.
to further back up your statement.
CF is also used in the construction on the mclaren cars that are fully carbon fibre.
There are many ways of using carbon fibre. the carbon fibre method and type that is used in a mclaren f1 road car and formula 1 cars is that they are first cut out to a pattern that it will eventually become then they get heated in a big oven until the material melts then they put it in a gun and basically squeeze out the material onto a template and then release it out of the mold to use the new carbon fibre after it dries. this method is complete different then using it the ****ty way by just cutting a sheet of cf and laying it out onto a pattern and then resin the **** out of it and then clear it.
06-Oct-2005, 10:14 AM
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Basically, the only 2 production car to date that uses CF monocoque chassis are McLaren F1 and Ferrari F50. Everything else is either steel, aluminum or steel tublar space frame (and possible other methods).
CF body panels on a mass production vehicle is only there to reduce weight, nothing more, nothing less. During a collusion (without a proper built cage), the chassis will want to cave in but the panels won't crumble. Thus, it may result in an unwanted situation. But if the chassis is reinforced with tublar frame and cage, it is doable since you are in a better protection than an open cockpit.
But who wants to get into an accident?
CF body panels on a mass production vehicle is only there to reduce weight, nothing more, nothing less. During a collusion (without a proper built cage), the chassis will want to cave in but the panels won't crumble. Thus, it may result in an unwanted situation. But if the chassis is reinforced with tublar frame and cage, it is doable since you are in a better protection than an open cockpit.
But who wants to get into an accident?
06-Oct-2005, 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Nova_Dust
Basically, the only 2 production car to date that uses CF monocoque chassis are McLaren F1 and Ferrari F50. Everything else is either steel, aluminum or steel tublar space frame (and possible other methods).
CF body panels on a mass production vehicle is only there to reduce weight, nothing more, nothing less. During a collusion (without a proper built cage), the chassis will want to cave in but the panels won't crumble. Thus, it may result in an unwanted situation. But if the chassis is reinforced with tublar frame and cage, it is doable since you are in a better protection than an open cockpit.
But who wants to get into an accident?
Basically, the only 2 production car to date that uses CF monocoque chassis are McLaren F1 and Ferrari F50. Everything else is either steel, aluminum or steel tublar space frame (and possible other methods).
CF body panels on a mass production vehicle is only there to reduce weight, nothing more, nothing less. During a collusion (without a proper built cage), the chassis will want to cave in but the panels won't crumble. Thus, it may result in an unwanted situation. But if the chassis is reinforced with tublar frame and cage, it is doable since you are in a better protection than an open cockpit.
But who wants to get into an accident?
i thought your car had jdm carbon fibre chassy too
there are a couple of cars now that have a mix of cf and metal like the porche carrera gt.
07-Oct-2005, 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by chris_si98
thanks once again team rukus
thanks once again team rukus
and to clarify anyone's doubt.
basically this is the reason.
for example:
say it was night time.
and your headlights were on the rear tail lights would be on too. but if you noticed some cars the actual red light in the back is brighter then normal and someone might actually mistake that and think the driver just hit the brakes. and what they try to do is make the driver of the car behind hopefully realize that when the brakes are pressed the third brake light would come on too.
also say for example a car was rear ended and its tails broke but the car still drives properly but the tail lights are mashed up and the guy decided to drive it to a shop or home and a police officer was not present to say that this car has to be towed the person behind him wouldnt know when he hits the brakes because the lights wouldnt function and because the third brake light is independant and only comes on when the brakes are used a person can use that to tell if the person hits the brakes or not.
or the most simplest scenario would be in the winter time alot of people dont wipe the snow off the rear bumper and trunk and if enough snow is there it might freeze and block the tail light from it shining the light thru for the person behind to tell and since the rear glass has a defroster and also the person will 100 percent make sure he cleans it so he can see thru the glass the third brake light will be visible.
simply put its a "just in case light"
07-Oct-2005, 06:18 AM
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I thought I was the only one crazy enough to strip my interior last year? Who knew. I love it. So anti-rice.
Lighter (abeit slightly) especially for a sol. Mind you the pass seat weights a bit.
A lot louder! Weeeeeeeeh! You can even hear the fuel pump whine like a dehydrated fat kid trying to drink a milkshake through a straw. So cool...
Another way to lighten the car is to skip out on the 3rd hamburger for all you "big boys"....lol...
Lighter (abeit slightly) especially for a sol. Mind you the pass seat weights a bit.
A lot louder! Weeeeeeeeh! You can even hear the fuel pump whine like a dehydrated fat kid trying to drink a milkshake through a straw. So cool...
Another way to lighten the car is to skip out on the 3rd hamburger for all you "big boys"....lol...
07-Oct-2005, 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by echien
I thought I was the only one crazy enough to strip my interior last year? Who knew
I thought I was the only one crazy enough to strip my interior last year? Who knew
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