imported_Googoo

"my civic will still eat a srt-4 and its worth less than 20,000..."

So what kind of warrantyave you got??

I'd lease one .... probably!

Brent
Check that, I'd rather get an Accord coupe for that money!

imported_Hybridtheory

went to dodge today to get some questions answered............ but dodge canada is still in the dark

i was promised that as soon as they hear something........ they'll call me and i can put a deposit down on one of the first few srt's

styling......... its all a matter of preference...... personally i think it looks bad ***




as for reliability......... neons SUCK

i havnt heard from anyone who has a sx 2.0 ( rebadged neon )

but what i do know is that the srt's have been in the us for over a year now........ and after browsing the srt forums...... no one has any complaints about em......

the factory approved mopar stages 1-3 turbo kits that can upgrade the srt's turbo to 300 hp without voiding the warranty is also impressive....



domestics have been owned by imports for god knows how long...... do you really think its going to stay that way forever?


i think alot of you are reluctant to admit that the srt is going to be an amazing car for under $30k

dodge must have done something right to get the srt announced as the #1 sport compact car of the year by SCC, Car & Driver, and a few others that i cant remember.....

and just for the record....... the EP Sir came DEAD LAST in the SCC trials where the srt ranked 1st





ok guys...... flame away!

blk93si

copied from the Chrysler site

GM DOESN’T HAVE IT.
FORD DOESN’T HAVE IT.
HONDA DOESN’T HAVE IT.
TOYOTA DOESN’T HAVE IT.



Powertrain Warranty for 7 years or 115,000 kilometres

u can have a new motor and tranny every year for seven years for fre LOL

pretty good deal

bbarbulo

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dopey, SCC looks at dollar value and power ratio... not how it actually is to OWN a car... OWNING it is different from TESTING it. I don't put a lot of weight on those tests.

As for EP coming in last... I'm not too impressed with the curb weight, price, and MacPhearson struts, and the UK build :fustrated ... but a Honda is a Honda.

blk93si

I have owned 14 Honda civics ,Honda Preludes, Honda Accords,Great cars and Resale value , but TOO many out there and they are overpriced

I am going for the Hated DSM Chrysler - well Mitsubishi -GSX AWD

As some of you have not noticed there sales stats are up there

I want something different , you don't see that many of them

I know they are not reliable, trannies go etc.crankwalk, but a new jdm motor is $1200 , not $3000 for a b16 Gen 2

But most Honda trannies Grind 3rd gear, most Vtec motor burns oil

I am not trying to talk **** about honda - I am a Huge Honda fan - but every car out there has flaws in it or common problems

This NEw NEON seems good , and if it breaks down , well 7/115km Power train warranty

just my 0.2

imported_Cablerat

What a waste..

Can't blame Dodge for trying though... I'm sure there will be quite a few on the road. Maybe it'll help take a little heat off the imports.

I've driven my buddy's 87 turbo ][ shelby charger.. Yeah it was quick, nothing like my h22 rite now but still not bad. But geeze, head gasket this, turbo seal that.. everything would keep going.

I still get 400KM to the tank in my h22 civic.. if i ride it easy taht is..

Neon Turbo.. oh yeah, that's gonna be damn reliable! Warranty is definitely a plus but **** imagine how many times your gonna have to drop off your car and go thru so much crap with warranty. PPL say, yeah well I won't keep the car for longer than warranty.. yeah EH! good luck selling your NEON!

BLK - I love the GSX AWDs.. man that was my dream car.. I almost bought it a lil while back too.. After doing some research on US forums, I realized it's really not a good idea unless you got a lot of money to throw around.. They have way too many issues with em.. specially the AWD.. But again I agree it's a sweet ride.. If you can just barely afford, I'd strongly suggest against it. Otherwise sure why not?!



IMO ofcourse

bbarbulo

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BTW Paul, I noticed the same thing... Hondas DO have problems too, but that's cuz they are soooo beat. Ppl either think Hondas are magical and don't need ANY maintenance... that's one type of folk,

and the other type think that redline is a great place to shift day in, day out... all day long. Why can't ppl take care of their cars?

Out of the 14 cars I've owned, the Honda is the best car I've owned, but it's also the second newest car I owned... so that may have something to do with it. Nissan 300 ZX turbo was the worst car I've ever owned! Most difficult and most expensive to fix... second worst is the 2000 TDi Golf that I used to have, and that my dad now drives... and then an assortement of vehicles just kinda fall into place... various Ford, GM and Chrylser, VW, Honda products I've owned over the past... 7 years.

bbarbulo

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http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2228

deez ******* are all running mid 14s with mild mods, bigger mods get them high 13s. That's not THAT impressive

imported_JookSingKid

Sean, don't doubt it bro.

This neon is no ordinary neon.

blk93si

the 2004 Dodge SRT-4 and boosted the output to 230 horsepower at 5,300 rpm and 250 lb.-ft. of torque from 2,200-4,400 rpm

It will rape alot of civics , close to twice the torque

imported_Hybridtheory

the 04's come stock with lsd....


you can also add a stage 1 mopar upgrade..... boom 260

stage 3 gets you up to the 3ish area


i see some nice times...

2003 Dodge SRT-4 (13.578 @ 105.75 mph:w/ just boost controller

03 SRT-4: Stage 1 13.46 @ 105

13.681@102.212 2.104 60'

keep in mind those are all 03's

the 04's have lsd.... and an extra 20 or so horsies

blk93si

MOPAR POWER

EL_Sport

Exactly, those road tests are great and all for giving out info on the car's performance, handling, styling, etc. But they won't tell you anything about reliability. I'd be more interested in a long-term (1-year or more) test of this car. Indeed the SRT-4 did well in SCC's test (in fact the hp and tq to the wheels were actaully greater than the factory numbers at the flywheel ), I just still can't get over the fact that the SRT-4 is based on a car with a very poor reliability track record, and to make matters worse it now runs high levels of boost.

SilverCRXSi

Theres a reasons Honda's are "overpriced" though. They have the reliability factor and are known to be good.
It pissed me off when I was looking for an EK hatch a few years ago how expensive they were.
The most outta whack Honda I'd have to say though is the Del Sol. Not uncommon to see '93 models for 13K! WTF!?!

I also wonder about the reliability of the Neon. Would I ever buy one? Nope. But if people like it then to each their own.
I read in a magazine (can't remember if it was SCC?) but they did a preview on the Neon with some Chrysler guys and I "think" they said that the car was good in straight line, but not so good on twisties, hence wouldn't be good in auto-x. Typical American cars. Can go straight but thats about it.

In the event I made a mistake just gimme one of these

blk93si

imported_Syphon

What would you say the average price of a '93 Civic DX Coupe with: New head gasket, water pump, redone breaks, new cv boots, new resonater, all new exhaust system from cat back, was taken to honda every month by the old lady to have it serviced, and has 100 000k on it? Body in good condition, no scratches, major marks or anything. Very very light rust on inner wheel well.

blk93si

With 400 Civics for sale in the auto trader to compete with

i say $3000-$4000

bbarbulo

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regardless of the published numbers, these are ACTUAL enthusiasts running the 1320. Quite a few have stage one plus a little bit more, and they are only hitting high 13s. A car that claims 260 hp and those 250 torque figures, in a compact package should be getting better numbers. Something ain't right about it... Same 1/4 numbers can be had from a mild-boost SOHC that I'm building.

punkindrublic

thats 260hp is probably crank hp... so for the tranny instead of designing better gears and use better materials they just take the regular neon tranny and just make it bigger and heavier... so it probably loses a lot of power when going to the wheels....

and when comparing civics to this neon you have to remember the civic is probably 1.6 or 1.8 liters in displacement and all motor... for the lucky few with an h22 obviously its different.... but the neon has two liters and a turbo.... stroke a gsr motor to two liters and run as much boost as that neon is and it would be more a fair conparison

CrazyBimmer

People have run 13.9 stock in the SRT-4.

It's a bad *** car.