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Old 12-Jul-2007, 08:30 AM
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so you say street racers HOW ABOUT DRUNK DRIVERS?

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_12794.aspx

A young boy is fighting for life in hospital after a terrible car crash left his mother dead.

The three-year-old was walking with his mom along McCowan Rd. near Eglinton Ave. E. at about 8pm Wednesday when a van mounted the curb and hit the pair on the sidewalk. The 36-year-old woman was pronounced dead at the scene, while the boy was rushed to the Hospital for Sick Children, where he remains in critical condition.

"They were walking on the west sidewalk. The vehicle was southbound. It struck the curb and then mounted the curb where it came into contact with the two pedestrians," confirmed Toronto Police Sgt. James Cassells.

The motorist, a 56-year-old man, was due in court Thursday to face charges of impaired driving causing death and bodily harm.

Police are in the process of tracking down the woman's family to inform them of the tragic mishap, which is why her identity has not been released.



so people street race since 1999 and about 50 people are killed, now this guy is going to court for "The motorist, a 56-year-old man, was due in court Thursday to face charges of impaired driving causing death and bodily harm" and hes driving to drunk? hmm why not take out the drunk drivers before they put millions into street racing for only 50 deaths since 1999 everyday in the news i read drunk drivers charged only once a month i hear street racing so where shoul dthe tax dollars go into?>
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Old 12-Jul-2007, 08:43 AM
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ummm ok? cuz there's noone fighting against drunk driving in this world?

ever heard of M.A.D.D., etc?
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I believe the number of people killed from street racing since 99 is 38 or so.

Anyways I heard this story on the edge this morning and i have to say this is sooo stupid. Right now I bet most of the attention is on catching "street racers" because of recent events and people like this guy probably slip right by.
Now if the kid survives he will have no mother..... and by the time the kid knows the story this man will most likely be back out on the street to reoffend because lets be honest, the majority of drunk drivers do it again.
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Old 12-Jul-2007, 08:57 AM
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thats because street racers are an easier target for politicians...has nothing to do with what would really help...

I agree with kingjames, I hear way to many stories of people getting off with drunk driving way to easy...
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Old 12-Jul-2007, 09:07 AM
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stop crying. if you dont street race you have nothing to worry about, and if you dont drink and drive you have nothing to worry about.

i dont get what the big deal is, the law is there for a reason, if you have something illegal on your car you should get ticketed just like for having a bottle of open liquor in your car...same thing....same goes for racing, if your caught they should crush not only the car but the driver, and if you drink and drive you should lose your licence and go to jail forever.
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Old 12-Jul-2007, 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by shlammed
ummm ok? cuz there's noone fighting against drunk driving in this world?

ever heard of M.A.D.D., etc?
yeah i do im a great supporter of it i have lost friends to drunk driving and the guy walked away free so really what does madd do? jus bring in donations to help the people with the loss or trying to bring awreness to the community will not stop drunk driving sorry jus reality.
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stop crying. if you dont street race you have nothing to worry about, and if you dont drink and drive you have nothing to worry about.

i dont get what the big deal is, the law is there for a reason, if you have something illegal on your car you should get ticketed just like for having a bottle of open liquor in your car...same thing....same goes for racing, if your caught they should crush not only the car but the driver, and if you drink and drive you should lose your licence and go to jail forever.

see you dont see my point. my point is why are these people targeting something that is so small so target the racers but have you seen the spendin budget? well for street racing its crazy the money they are pouring in when there is a bigger issue to deal with first.....im not sayin hey dont catch the street racers im saying why not put half the money the guv did into street racing then drunk driving and you will fix both problems dont only budget for street racers when drunk driving is way more out of control then street racing
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yeah i do im a great supporter of it i have lost friends to drunk driving and the guy walked away free so really what does madd do? jus bring in donations to help the people with the loss or trying to bring awreness to the community will not stop drunk driving sorry jus reality.
so explain how you would like to "Fight" drunk driving then ... other then R.I.D.E. how do you think this accident could ahve been prevented ? I mean in the end its the drivers respnsibility to not be a frikkin heedyat and drive drunk ... so please ... explain .. how would u have prevented this ?

its easier for a cop to notice and pull over a speeding car ... period
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are you crazy^^ didnt you read the story where the cops came out of the bar all hammered and tried to drive home but struck a pole that is part of the problem get the cops to stop drinkin and driving first then there is room for improvment for the people
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Originally posted by sol2nv
are you crazy^^ didnt you read the story where the cops came out of the bar all hammered and tried to drive home but struck a pole that is part of the problem get the cops to stop drinkin and driving first then there is room for improvment for the people
im fully talkin about the drunk guy that hopped the curb... not sure what bar your talkin about ... but im stickin to the original issue ... u cant look for drunk driver written on cars to point em out ... so how else is it possible ..
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one way to fight drunk driving is to put up RIDE during reasonable drunk hours.. The cops are packing up by 2:00am... they should be on the street until 3:30am... all you gotta do to avoid them is hit up some chinese food... or if you leave the bar/club after your last drink (say 2:30am) they're most likely not out there...

i've been stopped by ride on the way to a bar/club more than anything else.... it's just that they don't want to be out working late on their shift.

also, you can drink and drive or speed more on days with really really cold/****ty weather

i never drink and drive simply because i'm not compelled to drink.. and i don't want to take an unnecessary chances.

one night a month of not drinking when i go out doesn't affect my lifestyle, but that one time a month i can risk hurting someone, or even worse, damaging my car or losing my license!

most people do re-offend this sort of thing... that's why they should be forced into programs and community service.

MADD is pretty much bull****. i would much rather support BADD on principal

http://www.baddcentral.com/

if you want to fight drinking and driving, just make sure you and none of your friends do it... and if you can't stop 'em, don't sit in the car with.

i got currently have one friend I won't sit in his car, I'd rather take a $30 cab and not be worried.
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Old 12-Jul-2007, 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bruce Fee
i got currently have one friend I won't sit in his car, I'd rather take a $30 cab and not be worried.
WTF .. thats the worst sentence evar !
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They are both bad and both should be sent to jail for 25 years to life.
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Old 12-Jul-2007, 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by luke11
stop crying. if you dont street race you have nothing to worry about, and if you dont drink and drive you have nothing to worry about.

i dont get what the big deal is, the law is there for a reason, if you have something illegal on your car you should get ticketed just like for having a bottle of open liquor in your car...same thing....same goes for racing, if your caught they should crush not only the car but the driver, and if you drink and drive you should lose your licence and go to jail forever.
I totally agree with you but thats not to point... you missed it totally.
The point being made is that to much effort is being put into catching "street racers" recently when thousands of people are hurt or being killed from drunk drivers. Its the allocation of the governments resources we are arguing not whether we should or should get in **** if we break the law. I hate street racing but I hate drunk drivers even more and I dont do either. I also make sure all my mods are legal as well.
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Old 12-Jul-2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by luke11
...if you dont street race you have nothing to worry about, and if you dont drink and drive you have nothing to worry about.
^^^Good point. A tragic loss of life. Putting cash into efforts to try and prevent things like that from happening is worth it, be it one cause or another. In essence, loss of life is sad, whether it's due to one crime or another.
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WTF .. thats the worst sentence evar !
i never said why? makes he smokes and drives? maybe i just don't feel safe in his car? you shouldn't assume he gets plastered and drives home.

the drunkest people i've seen driving were cops when i worked the lobby desk at a banquet hall with police parties.
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yeah good point....but what im trying to say its the people that are against drinkin and driving are the ones who get killed by the idiots who drink and drive and the drivers will still be driving around after....drunk
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drunk driving is far more of a problem, they could do FAR more to stop it. IE They know every weekend downtown in the clubbing district, 100s of people come come out of the clubs and hop into their cars, so why dont I see Police pulling everyone over..... are they too busy checking civics for NOS.... gimme a break
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yeah and even if they get caught causing bodly harm they still get to drive come on look at this fairness against imports so if your "suspected" street racer they crush your cars but this guy already hit someone while drunk and he still gets to drive
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guys it's simple ...

a Drunk Driving Charge means you are most likely going to court to fight it because the penalty is very sever...

a speeding charge ... most people will pay it and not fight the charge.

it's lower cost higher profit to have police look at speeding then look at drinking and driving.
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