imported_Moe_Mentum

Stick with the 2nd Gen man trust me!
http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/index.html#general
to check the difference go here.... It will outline the differences between 1st and 2nd gen very clearly

imported_D dot T

Not worth swapping a older engine into new car. Too many complications w/ wiring from ODB2 to ODB0. Besides, why would you want a older engine in your car? Might as well stick w/ stock if you ask me. 2500 for swap is real cheap, I've been quoted mostly 4G's by reputible shops.

Lil' EG

I got a 95 motor, in a 98 car.....it was impossible to tell, n i was conned by shine motors....they told me it was 99, until honda-tech members, told me to take off the headers shield, n look on the block n it told me the year....as well my car is now OBD1, n as far as i knew 99 would be OBD2

Gunmetalef

hes talking about a 2nd gen b16 in an EG ... come from the same line of civics? so how is it gonna be an older engine in a new car?

imported_Moe_Mentum

Nothing is wrong with an older engine .. Here are some reasons why you'd consider and older engine...

1. If your Engine has hundreds of thousands of KM
2. Its burning oil like crazy
3. You want More Power
4. Even though the engine is older, if you get one that has low KM your still better off then a junky stock motor

imported_Moe_Mentum

Also forgot to mention$2500 for a b16A2 or SIRII if its JDM is probably way to cheap. Like others said.. expect a cheap tranny, First gen B16A, and a cheapo install... I.E No Vtec, and messy install with wires everywhere

imported_95bluelx

I agree with N1 Taboo, never heard of that law in Canada

WayFastWhitie

No.. Its nothing at all.

If you pick up a obd0 motor and want to wire it into a obd car the only thing you need to do is conversion harness and a small bit of easy wiring and a new ECU (will come with the engine)

If its a obd2 to obd1. Its just plug and play conversion harness with a new Ecu.

Converting back is real easy.. Just the distributor and you need to swap your 02 sensor(s) and add a resistor pack. (if running obd0 91 or older)

I run a obd2 motor in a obd0 car.. and it was real easy. Its the same thing both ways . Lots of people do it.

Just run the motor obd1 its the easiest way.. Dont worry about what the car is, its simple to convert.


Drop in a b16a2.. stay away from the 1st gen b16's they have cable trannys and your hydraulic so it will take a bit of converting

Scott-93HBSi

Yup, B16A's are in the 2k - 2400 range. So at 500-600 for install 2500-3k is the range for installed.


And to add to the "is it illegal" - no it is not illegal in ontario to swap in an older motor - as long as it meets the emissions requirements.

imported_D dot T

Sry, was commenting on someone else's question in regards to that. But B16A2 would go in fine for EK for sure.

Well, if switching in a 1st gen b16 into EK is easy than thats fine by me.

spracingsports

get it in writing what they say it is and what you want..... let them install and if it aint what they said it was, sue them.... youll own the shop afterwards

duttycivic

the price quoted was apparently for a 99-2000 sir motor.. its from a trusted friends family shop.. but ill be sure to keep you guys posted on the details when i find out more.. im not going thru with it just yet. im acutally thinking of just getting a different car

jaschu81

Anyone know if 88-91 B16 1st gen will be direct bolt onto 93 del sol si? dun really know which years of car is OBD I or II and which years is cable tranny...!!
thanks