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Old 03-Feb-2005, 12:38 PM
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Is $2500 a good price for a 2nd gen b16 swap fully installed?
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Old 03-Feb-2005, 02:45 PM
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thanks/

for clarification: its not going into my 2000 civic. im looking for a 92-95 coupe or hatch to drop it in.

keep the comments coming.
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Old 03-Feb-2005, 04:22 PM
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yah 25 installed is a good price, just do your homework, make sure everythigns included cuz allot fo the times they tack on cost after cost, by the time it leaves the shop you have a bill for 3500
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Old 04-Feb-2005, 10:33 AM
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isnt it illegal for u to drop an older model motor into a newer car?
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Old 04-Feb-2005, 11:52 PM
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Thats a really good price... Especially since includes installation. Be careful you may have to buy additional parts such as ECU or axles, etc. As for the above comment, technically it is illegal, but whose gonna know
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Old 05-Feb-2005, 12:29 AM
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2gen is same gen as the eg
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Old 05-Feb-2005, 04:24 AM
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and make sure the installer is professional and geniune... there are punks out there that looks like they can install, but they do a ****ty job... and becareful of what's included and what's not... missing this and that can cost you another g or 2...
that's my 2cents... 2500 is CHEAP...

i've been quoted a b16a2 complete with the axles, shafts, linkage, all the mounts, ecu, tranny, etc with installation for about 4000...
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Old 05-Feb-2005, 11:03 AM
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Is it possible to swap in a 1st gen b16 into a '99 hatch? Isn't there a way, that you can rewire the OBD1 system into an OBD2? I was reading something on HT but they didn't get into details.
 
Old 05-Feb-2005, 11:16 AM
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Is it possible to swap in a 1st gen b16 into a '99 hatch? Isn't there a way, that you can rewire the OBD1 system into an OBD2? I was reading something on HT but they didn't get into details.
Yep it's possible.
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im telling u its is illegal to swap an older model engine into a car that is newer then the motor!.
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Old 05-Feb-2005, 12:49 PM
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yup he right,

you would need the engine to be newer then the vehicle itself!
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Old 05-Feb-2005, 12:56 PM
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man that's cheap I mean any mechanics door rate is gonna be atleast 50-70 bucks an hour, and it woudl take a few good hours (all day probobly if not 2) to take old motor out and put new one in. Then add the price for a good motor etc. I mean seems to good to be true, is it an actual mechanic shop..?
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Old 05-Feb-2005, 01:47 PM
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motor could be hot
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Old 06-Feb-2005, 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by EKer
Is it possible to swap in a 1st gen b16 into a '99 hatch? Isn't there a way, that you can rewire the OBD1 system into an OBD2? I was reading something on HT but they didn't get into details.
sorry, i got a question... isn't 1st gen b16 obd0??? and the 2nd gen (which is in the EGs) are obd1??? maybe i have the wrong stuff in my brain... just correct me if i'm wrong...

and yeah... as long as you know how to re-wire or you can find those converting kits, you can convert any obd's to go into your gen.... but like b16civic said, it is usually pain and it would cost you more for those converting kits than just getting the matching generation of b16 for your civic...


also, about the swapping a newer/older motor motor is illegal or not... can someone correct me on this if i'm wrong?? i heard like two version or two-sayings about this... the first one is, as long as you report to the ministry about the replaced engine with the engine model and identification of your purchase of the motor, then it won't be illegal... but i also hear another version/saying is that if your civic originally has a 1.6L engine, as long as your swap motor is 1.6L, then you're fine... but if you put in 1.7L, then its trouble... i'm not sure.... but that's what i heard.. maybe people are just trying to screw me up??? correct me on this plz...



you might want to do a full test on the engine first... compression test to see if there's anything wrong... misfiring, bad pistons, etc...
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I've got a built obd1 motor in my obd1 car, but it's older than the car itself. From an integra XSi.
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Originally posted by TranceaddicT
im telling u its is illegal to swap an older model engine into a car that is newer then the motor!.

its only illegal in cali....to do that, its all legal here, a first gen b16a can work OBD1 no problem, and its legal..
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How about OBD2?
 
Old 06-Feb-2005, 08:27 PM
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who cares if the motor is older than the car lol.. if its working they way it should then its all good.
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How difficult would it be to convert a 1st gen b16 to be compatible with OBD2?
 
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price seems too low, you're getting most likely a 1st gen B16 with a integra tranny bolted to it.

NO WAY!! run, RUN far away from that shop
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