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Old 30-Aug-2004, 12:28 AM
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Red light cameras

Here is just a friendly heads up on the "Red Light Cameras" around the city.

The following is the list of the intersections in Toronto where you'll currently find one of the rotating cameras. The cameras are designed to catch anyone who runs a red light, putting others at risk. A picture of the car and its plate is examined, and if found to be in violation of the law, a motorist receives a ticket in the mail for $190 so drive safely and leave early if you need to get some where so you don't have to rush.


Finch Ave & Kipling Ave
Dixon Rd & Islington Ave
Dixon Rd & Martin Grove Rd
Eglinton Ave & Martin Grove Rd
The Queensway & Royal York Rd
Finch Ave & Weston Rd
Finch Ave & Jane St
Dufferin St & Steeles Ave
Allen Rd & Sheppard Ave
Bathurst St & Finch Ave
Weston Rd & Lawrence Ave
Dundas St & Keele St
Dufferin St & Eglinton Ave
Dufferin St & St Clair Ave
Yonge St & Eglinton Ave
Yonge St & York Mills Rd
Dufferin St & Bloor St
Bloor St & Bathurst St
University Ave & Gerrard St
Yonge St Steeles Ave
Yonge St Finch Ave
Finch Ave & Don Mills Rd
Eglinton Ave & Don Mills Rd
Yonge St & Wellesley St
Lakeshore Blvd E/B & Yonge St
Yonge St & Richmond St
Danforth Ave & Broadview Ave
St Clair & Victoria Park Ave
Lawrence Ave & Victoria Park Ave
Eglinton Ave & Pharmacy Ave
Eglinton Ave & Markham Rd
Lawrence Ave & Warden Ave
Ellesmere Rd & Brimley Rd
Ellesmere Rd & Markham Rd
Lawrence Ave & Markham Rd
Steeles Ave & Warden Ave
Brimley Rd & Huntingwood Dr
Kingston Rd & Morningside Ave
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Old 30-Aug-2004, 12:33 AM
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can I ask where you got this information? and did YOU get permission to post this?

If not I suggeest you ask to post this type of info.
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Old 30-Aug-2004, 12:39 AM
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No I won't tell you where I got it and yes its ok to post. It went out to hundreds of people and came from a cop.. Thats all I can say..
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Old 30-Aug-2004, 12:50 AM
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why would someone need to ask to post this info?...it'z a helpful reminder to drivers...and if anything will deter u from running a redlight. . . red light cameras are clearly visible anyways at most intersections. . .
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wow i drive through Dundas St & Keele St everyday and I never noticed...

thanx for the heads up...
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I don't run any red lights, but damn, according to that list I'm surrounded by those lights!

I've noticed a couple of them, but not as much as I thought!
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Hmmm, I guess that that also means that I live in an area populated by bad drivers.
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Originally posted by cet_civic
can I ask where you got this information? and did YOU get permission to post this?

If not I suggeest you ask to post this type of info.

i dont see why you would need permission to post this..


i posted this list up on a few boards, while running a red light is stupid......

getting a $190 ticket mailed to you for going through the intersection when the light has only been red for .0754 of a second is also gay
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What's the difference between .0754 and .0755? and .0756? The only reasonable place to draw the line is when the light goes red. It's easy to tell when that's going to happen, it turns yellow first. If you can't handle that then there's a $190 tax on having bad timing.
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so if i pass the solid line while its still yellow (late yellow) is that consider running a red?
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Originally posted by cold_fire
so if i pass the solid line while its still yellow (late yellow) is that consider running a red?
Technicly yes but cops wont bother you unless you go through the intersection or INTO the intersection.

Remember, its not just a $190 fine. You could end up killing someone...
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i meant going stright through the intersection when its late yellow
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Old 31-Aug-2004, 01:48 AM
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^---- No, because it's still yellow. The offense is "Running a red light," not "running a yellow." If it's red then you are screwed.
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You should still go through yellows when appropriate because if you're about to go through the intersection and slam the brakes cuz the lights went yellow you might get smacked in the *** from an unsuspecting driver.
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thats the thing Shlammed...

if you are going the speed limit then the yellow light is long enough such that the majority of people can come to a safe and controlled stop... like if I have only 1 car length before I'm in the intersection.. I'll go through it would not be a safe and controlled stop. but any further back and I can ussually stop provided I'm going the limit

The issue with red light runners is people don't try to stop on a yellow. then they see the red and think I don't have time to come to a safe and controlled stop and end up going through and getting their picture taken and then complaining about the fine...

if you see a yellow have have a safe distance to stop then do so...

the issue just gets magnified when people speed
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well, I got a ticket from one of those cameras last year when i was visiting TO for the Monster Garage showing at the docks. I do not remember going through any red or the odd yellow light but yet I got a ticket in the mail for $190 and I was not about to drive back down to fight it. the picture they send you does not really show clearly that you are in violation. but it says it was inspected buy a cop with his/her sig. i had friends in my car and none of them remember me going through a red. so ya, free $190 to the city. just becareful and don't even try to run yellows if you can stop cause $190 really sucks for something like that.

thankfully there was no points deducted. i rather get a speeding ticket then get caught by a red light camera.. :P
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I my pic was snapped by one of these cameras. Apparently I crossed the first white line of the crosswalk as I was inching to make a right turn. When I say inching, I mean at about 2km/h or something... really slow nonetheless. The ticket detailed that I didn't make a FULL stop BEFORE the first white line. No one was on the side walk. At the time, I just wanted to get a better view of traffic on the road inorder to merge into the street. I didn't even fight it cuz the pic suggested I didn't make a FULL stop... which I didn't. But slowly entering an intersection to make a right ( with no one on the street) shouldn't be charged to the same degree as someone blatantly running a red at speed. I'm not trying to rant... just telling people that one can be charged doing what I did.

As for displaying the information of where the cameras are used, this info is open to the public. It is found on the toronto site. http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/transportation/redlightcams.htm, so I don't see any fault in posting it.
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Originally posted by cold_fire
i meant going stright through the intersection when its late yellow

The yellow signals that you should stop if you can safely do so. It does not mean that it's time to step on the gas to try and beat an imminent red light.

Running a late yellow shouldn't trigger a red light camera, but you can still get a ticket if a cop sees you do it. Running a yellow, if a cop thinks you could reasonably have stopped for it, is considered the same as running a red light.

I personally would like to see red light running to be worth 6 points and a $500 minimum fine. That might go a long way to cutting down on intersection collisions and the serious injury and death that often results.
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Originally posted by Stocker
But slowly entering an intersection to make a right ( with no one on the street) shouldn't be charged to the same degree as someone blatantly running a red at speed. I'm not trying to rant...

Why shouldn't it? Who gets to define what is "slow enough" to be ok, or to considered worthy enough be charged to a lesser degree? My definition of "slow enough" could easily be 10 or 15 kmph different from the next person's!

And who gets to define what constitutes "light-enough" traffic to make a rolling "stop" ok? Again, my definition may be much different than your's.

There is no ambiguity in the directive to STOP for a red light, regardless of traffic levels around you.
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