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Old 02-Jul-2010, 12:08 AM
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Racing on the 401?

Driving home east bound in centre lane in collectors around Kennedy Rd Exit doing about 120-125km/hr..

I see in the left and centre lane of the express - a EK Silver(ish) civic with blue neons racing a like 98-99 Maxima... They flew past me like I was standing still.

With an instant 150km/hr street racing charge out there.. who the heck would be so stupid to race first of all. Second on the 401 and third on Canada day when police presence is even more apparent..

What a stupid world we live in! Let's hope the civic isn't a TCC member...
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Old 02-Jul-2010, 12:11 AM
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People like that makes my civic prone to getting pulled over. Everytime I sit in front of a cop and he drives pass me with a look in his face saying " punks and thier civics "

haha.
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Old 02-Jul-2010, 12:41 AM
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didn't see them, but shortly before midnight, exact same area (401 going west though, at Kennedy) i was passed by a TL, blue RSX w/gold rims, and a dark colored prelude. Same deal, I was doing 120km/h and they passed me like I was standing still. Weaving in and out of a group of cars in front of me.

I really hope people like that get into an accident and only they are hurt and have their cars damaged, just to teach them a lesson.. Take it to the effing track..
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I just passed by the 401 east around 1am and by meadovale on the 401 collector there were at least 5-10 ambulances and 3 wrecked cars one of them was upside down and wrecked and i saw that blue rsx on the side of the road with some other cars and tons of police. Hope no one died.
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It's sad that even reading about the crash that took place in Ottawa ( http://www.torontocivics.com/f3/fata...ottawa-171193/ ) still doesn't affect individuals...and that's only one of how many speeding incidents. Some people just seem to think that it can't happen to them.
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Old 02-Jul-2010, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by matt491 View Post
didn't see them, but shortly before midnight, exact same area (401 going west though, at Kennedy) i was passed by a TL, blue RSX w/gold rims, and a dark colored prelude. Same deal, I was doing 120km/h and they passed me like I was standing still. Weaving in and out of a group of cars in front of me.

I really hope people like that get into an accident and only they are hurt and have their cars damaged, just to teach them a lesson.. Take it to the effing track..

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I just passed by the 401 east around 1am and by meadovale on the 401 collector there were at least 5-10 ambulances and 3 wrecked cars one of them was upside down and wrecked and i saw that blue rsx on the side of the road with some other cars and tons of police. Hope no one died.

huh.
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Old 02-Jul-2010, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jdm ek4 View Post
I just passed by the 401 east around 1am and by meadovale on the 401 collector there were at least 5-10 ambulances and 3 wrecked cars one of them was upside down and wrecked and i saw that blue rsx on the side of the road with some other cars and tons of police. Hope no one died.
yea i seen that just on the east bound 401 collectors it happened just after meadowvale and before port union.looked like it was a bad one for sure.
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Old 02-Jul-2010, 08:18 PM
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if it's the same group of cars that passed me, I hope no innocent drivers on the road were hurt. I hope they get their cars towed and I hope their learn their god damn lesson. I have no tolerance for that crap.. take it to the effing track..
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Old 02-Jul-2010, 09:22 PM
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Life's short, drive fast.
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Old 02-Jul-2010, 09:43 PM
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Life's short, drive fast.
Words I live by in the bedroom.
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Originally Posted by scrid3r View Post
Life's short, drive fast.
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Words I live by in the bedroom.
How about, Pick up a passanger!


I cruise about.. well fast enough. And I'll admit, I like to rev up a bit with some cars that are 'fancy'. However, I can't stand A's that swive in and out of traffic, cutting people off, narrowly(sp?) missing other cars when switching lanes (no blinkers of course).. That really grinds my gears.

Please drive safe. Don't drive beyond your limits. Don't be an A.
For the people saying speed is the leading cause of accidents, that's like saying life is the leading cause of death.
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Old 02-Jul-2010, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by scrid3r View Post
Life's short, drive fast.
only martin

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ahahahahaha yes!

in all seriousness its just plain stupidity by said individuals. the only appropriate place to race is the track, people need to learn that and sometimes its gotta be the hard way (sad but true)
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Originally Posted by scrid3r View Post
Life's short, drive fast.
i agree...with 80hp LOL
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Old 03-Jul-2010, 08:53 AM
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^---- lol
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Old 04-Jul-2010, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by F8i View Post
Please drive safe. Don't drive beyond your limits. Don't be an A.
Think hard. How many drivers who end up crashing really thought they were driving beyond their limits at the time?


Originally Posted by F8i View Post
For the people saying speed is the leading cause of accidents, that's like saying life is the leading cause of death.
Higher speeds do tend to turn recoverable situations into unrecoverable crashes, and minor collisions into injury-causing or fatal crashes.
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Think hard. How many drivers who end up crashing really thought they were driving beyond their limits at the time?

Higher speeds do tend to turn recoverable situations into unrecoverable crashes, and minor collisions into injury-causing or fatal crashes.
Not sure of the point of this post. 0% of drivers think they were driving beyond their limits if they had a crash. That's plainly obvious. F8i's point would be addressed to those who haven't had a crash, still think they're Captain Invincible, and need to knock them down a peg or two. And yes, higher 'relative' speeds makes things worse, and I think everyone agrees that darting around cars like they're pylons is a bad idea... again, F8i's point being that in general, speed doesn't kill, it's people dicking around in specific situations where it has consequences is where the problem lies; not speed in of itself.
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Originally Posted by scrid3r View Post
Life's short, drive fast.
word i already do.
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Old 04-Jul-2010, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tkjode View Post
Not sure of the point of this post. 0% of drivers think they were driving beyond their limits if they had a crash. That's plainly obvious. F8i's point would be addressed to those who haven't had a crash, still think they're Captain Invincible, and need to knock them down a peg or two.
Parsing things out, admonishments to drive within your limits mean little when most people think their limit is usually far above what that big black and white numbered sign beside the highway says, and certainly far above what their actual talent reservoir holds.

The better admonishment would be to drive according to current traffic laws regardless what you think your own personal limits are. By doing so, you will also be driving in a manner that other road users are expecting you to do.

Much of our driving involves taking into account the expected movements of other vehicles around us. Nobody expects another driver to be mimicking a space shuttle on final approach while tolling around a busy commercial or residential street. If everyone were to stick somewhat more closely to the speed limits, comply with intersection control signs and lights, etc, it makes it a lot easier to anticipate movements of other vehicles around you and adjust your own movements according to avoid collision.


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again, F8i's point being that in general, speed doesn't kill, it's people dicking around in specific situations where it has consequences is where the problem lies; not speed in of itself.
Well, speed does kill. It may well be that unexpected mechanical failure, your own driver error, or another driver's error actually causes a crisis situation to occur, but the speeds of all involved will determine if a crash can be avoided, or if a resultant crash causes only property damage or escalates to injury or death.

Crash force increases exponentially with speed at time of impact, so upping your speed from 50 to 70 kmph, or 100 to 140 kmph, will double crash force. Double your speed, and crash force quadruples. Onboard vehicle safety systems have come a long way to mitigating crash injuries and death, but even they have their limits when faced with forces encountered in high speed crashes.

In that sense, while speed may or may not actually cause the crash, it does become the major decider if someone lives or dies once a crash has occurred.
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Originally Posted by FiveO;14r64767
Well, speed does kill. It may well be that unexpected mechanical failure, your own driver error, or another driver's error actually causes a crisis situation to occur, but the speeds of all involved will determine if a crash can be avoided, or if a resultant crash causes only property damage or escalates to injury or death.
So mechanical failure is speeds fault? Another driver running into you, that's speeds fault, too? An Icy road, speeds fault!

Originally Posted by FiveO;14r64767
Crash force increases exponentially with speed at time of impact, so upping your speed from 50 to 70 kmph, or 100 to 140 kmph, will double crash force. Double your speed, and crash force quadruples. Onboard vehicle safety systems have come a long way to mitigating crash injuries and death, but even they have their limits when faced with forces encountered in high speed crashes.

In that sense, while speed may or may not actually cause the crash, it does become the major decider if someone lives or dies once a crash has occurred.
Agreed, that's science!

The douche effect: If you're swerving backing and forth, driving up someone A then braking, you might lose control, you might find one of those randomly changing lanes vehicles, you might even crash. Don't be a douche.
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So mechanical failure is speeds fault? Another driver running into you, that's speeds fault, too? An Icy road, speeds fault!
Extreme driving speeds or extreme cornering can aggravate certain types of mechanical conditions that would not be an issue at more legal speeds.

As for other drivers running into you, there are so many ways that your own excessive speeds can be a contributing factor there. People make their driving decisions in part based on what they think the other driver should be doing.

How many people here make a serious effort to gauge the speed of an oncoming car before turning left in front of it? Many people will simply say, that oncoming car is a half-block down the street, lots of room to make the turn. If you are in that oncoming car doing twice the speed limit, you may suddenly have a problem, caused in large part because you were travelling at a speed the other driver did not reasonably expect.

Even Ontario insurance fault determination rules go out the window if the driver who would ordinarily have the right of way is speeding at 16 kmph or more over the speed limit. It comes down to you driving in a manner that is expected and predictable to other drivers.
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