Purchasing a carr need help
12-Jan-2009, 12:56 PM
#23
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Alright to set things straight
If you own a registered, insured car with vaild plates you CAN take those plates and put them on any car you just bought, as long as the car you put them on is going into your name and the ownership has been signed and dated and you are within 5 days of the date. You need to carry the signed and dated owership of the car you are buying, the ownership of the car the plates came from, and your vaild insurance slip. Again let me remind you, this can only be done within 5 days of the date on the signed ownership. You are fully coverend. Have done this a few times myself.
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If you own a registered, insured car with vaild plates you CAN take those plates and put them on any car you just bought, as long as the car you put them on is going into your name and the ownership has been signed and dated and you are within 5 days of the date. You need to carry the signed and dated owership of the car you are buying, the ownership of the car the plates came from, and your vaild insurance slip. Again let me remind you, this can only be done within 5 days of the date on the signed ownership. You are fully coverend. Have done this a few times myself.
PM me if any questions
If you have valid insurance on an existing car, that insurance automatically covers any newly-acquired vehicle (replacement or additional vehicle makes no difference) for 14 days from time of delivery. This is specifically written into Ontario law under the Insurance Act.
While you do have 6 days in which to notify the Ministry of a change in vehicle ownership, this has nothing to do with the use of license plates.
Neither the HTA nor any other provincial law permits an owner to just take plates off one car to put onto another vehicle without the prior authorization of the Ministry. If there was a 6-day provision, it would be explicitly stated in law, as is the case with the 14-day provision for car insurance. Check out s12.(1) of the HTA. http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...h08_e.htm#BK39
I've no doubt that you "can do it" and have done it. People can drink under age and have done t too, but that doesn't make it legal even if they manage to get away with it.
By the way, even if you have valid car insurance, that insurance is valid only if the driver and the vehicle are both authorized by the Ministry to operate on the road. If the driver and/or the car are bot properly licensed and something happens, your insurance company can refuse to pay out any claims arising from a crash.
12-Jan-2009, 01:06 PM
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If you have valid insurance on an existing car, that insurance automatically covers any newly-acquired vehicle (replacement or additional vehicle makes no difference) for 14 days from time of delivery. This is specifically written into Ontario law under the Insurance Act.
While you do have 6 days in which to notify the Ministry of a change in vehicle ownership, this has nothing to do with the use of license plates.
Neither the HTA nor any other provincial law permits an owner to just take plates off one car to put onto another vehicle without the prior authorization of the Ministry. If there was a 6-day provision, it would be explicitly stated in law, as is the case with the 14-day provision for car insurance. Check out s12.(1) of the HTA. http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...h08_e.htm#BK39
I've no doubt that you "can do it" and have done it. People can drink under age and have done t too, but that doesn't make it legal even if they manage to get away with it.
By the way, even if you have valid car insurance, that insurance is valid only if the driver and the vehicle are both authorized by the Ministry to operate on the road. If the driver and/or the car are bot properly licensed and something happens, your insurance company can refuse to pay out any claims arising from a crash.
While you do have 6 days in which to notify the Ministry of a change in vehicle ownership, this has nothing to do with the use of license plates.
Neither the HTA nor any other provincial law permits an owner to just take plates off one car to put onto another vehicle without the prior authorization of the Ministry. If there was a 6-day provision, it would be explicitly stated in law, as is the case with the 14-day provision for car insurance. Check out s12.(1) of the HTA. http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...h08_e.htm#BK39
I've no doubt that you "can do it" and have done it. People can drink under age and have done t too, but that doesn't make it legal even if they manage to get away with it.
By the way, even if you have valid car insurance, that insurance is valid only if the driver and the vehicle are both authorized by the Ministry to operate on the road. If the driver and/or the car are bot properly licensed and something happens, your insurance company can refuse to pay out any claims arising from a crash.
I did this when I bought my civic a while ago, I went i to get a 10 day temp and they told me i had to buy plates, as the car was only being driven down to my place to park it I din't want to buy plates. They told me as long as the ownership is signed from the civic i bought I could take plates off my current car, put them on the civic to drive it down. I had to carry the owerships signed for the civic, the ownership from my Oldsmobile (the car the plates came from) that I was using, and my insrance slip. How why would the MTO tell me wrong information. I even called my insurance to ask them as well. So your doubt is correct I can do it, and it is legal, unlike drinking underage.
I don't want to argue with people, why I was first told this I was a non beliver as well, but what can I say the MTO office said it was legal. And it is not just taking plates and putting them on another car. You have to be the regustered owner of the car you are using the plates from and the ownership for the car you are moving has to be signed as going to you, and the plates have to be valid.
12-Jan-2009, 05:34 PM
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Alright,
I did this when I bought my civic a while ago, I went i to get a 10 day temp and they told me i had to buy plates, as the car was only being driven down to my place to park it I din't want to buy plates. They told me as long as the ownership is signed from the civic i bought I could take plates off my current car, put them on the civic to drive it down. I had to carry the owerships signed for the civic, the ownership from my Oldsmobile (the car the plates came from) that I was using, and my insrance slip. How why would the MTO tell me wrong information. I even called my insurance to ask them as well. So your doubt is correct I can do it, and it is legal, unlike drinking underage.
I don't want to argue with people, why I was first told this I was a non beliver as well, but what can I say the MTO office said it was legal. And it is not just taking plates and putting them on another car. You have to be the regustered owner of the car you are using the plates from and the ownership for the car you are moving has to be signed as going to you, and the plates have to be valid.
I did this when I bought my civic a while ago, I went i to get a 10 day temp and they told me i had to buy plates, as the car was only being driven down to my place to park it I din't want to buy plates. They told me as long as the ownership is signed from the civic i bought I could take plates off my current car, put them on the civic to drive it down. I had to carry the owerships signed for the civic, the ownership from my Oldsmobile (the car the plates came from) that I was using, and my insrance slip. How why would the MTO tell me wrong information. I even called my insurance to ask them as well. So your doubt is correct I can do it, and it is legal, unlike drinking underage.
I don't want to argue with people, why I was first told this I was a non beliver as well, but what can I say the MTO office said it was legal. And it is not just taking plates and putting them on another car. You have to be the regustered owner of the car you are using the plates from and the ownership for the car you are moving has to be signed as going to you, and the plates have to be valid.
It's quite possible that someone at the office, trying to be "helpful", just suggested that you "borrow" the plates of another car. That doesn't mean it is legal. If you had been investigated roadside by police for some reason, and depending on how "understanding" the cop is, you could have been in serious jeopardy.
I was in court a few years back listening to just such a case where an accused had done exactly what you did. He was found guilty and given the full $1,000 fine AND 7 days in jail. His prior driving record was abysmal and didn't help score any sympathy points but the point is, he was found guilty. I don't think the regs have changed since.
Insurance is different. As I said, there are provisions written directly into the Insurance Act of Ontario to cover insurance coverage in the first 14 days following acquisition of an additional or replacement vehicle. There are no equivalent provisions written into Ontario law to cover license plates.
Last edited by FiveO; 12-Jan-2009 at 07:41 PM. Reason: typo
13-Jan-2009, 12:26 AM
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lol all this talk about throwing plates on brings back some memories of my good buddy. he got a vw and threw his dads old plates on that werent registered to a car anymore[car got scrapped] and so he was driving around with those plates, no insurance and only the ownership with the previuos owners signature on it for like 5months till he decided to actually register it. i would have to go with him where ever he went, and block his back plate so you couldnt see that the plate did not have an e-test sticker.
once he got his registration and insurance all setup, a week later he got a ticket for rolling a stop.
once he got his registration and insurance all setup, a week later he got a ticket for rolling a stop.
13-Jan-2009, 11:29 AM
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yeah, i mean he had a good run without registration but he would always drive nervous since he knows that if cop just looks at his plate he is getting pulled over. i know number of people who did that but unless its just down a side street for 2mins or something i would not do that lol.
13-Jan-2009, 05:51 PM
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ahaha true say man, so im going to look at another car tonight. this one is a steal by the looks of it ill tell you guys what i think when i get back. im bringing a deposit incase i like it.
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