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Old 22-Nov-2006, 12:50 AM
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ok, depending on how educated you are and how far back your knowledge goes on transmissions before synchros... thats what you had to do... truck drivers etc... hmmmmm, i wonder then.
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by starboy869
Yeah I read that post also and I was WTF!?!?!?! Your way off on how a transmission works. Let me see if I can find a classroom video of a transmission works for you. Right now your way beyond clueless.

For now I found this vid

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...q=transmission


Your still using the synchros however there is less of load on them. The term double clutching was before the days of synchros in a transmission.

You might want to read up on this:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm
who are you again?

oh, and well the tranny i was talking about was to do it on a d17 tranny and well that info i got from a tranny shop... so blame them...


and then why would you bother commenting on the synchro part? i was correct... hmmmm... of course you are using it as the discussion was about above... if its being moved its being used or close to along those lines...

man, i hate when people act big behind their keyboards and talk ****... i can be wrong too just as you were when you were BORN!!!
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by zeeman
clearly you don't understand how tranny's work
i dunno why you are getting in on this... mr. come to my house i have a crank pulley for you...

45mins to hamilton...

20mins risking life to take it off...

oohhhh, i forgot to check to see if it was the right one...

lol

and chris, well you just seem like an *** to me one ball bigger than your head... your mad cause your different and you hate yourself cause your an idiot!
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 01:05 AM
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chris is nice boy
pasini is nice boy

Play nice
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 01:06 AM
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If you are rev matchin u still wear the clutch..

It is depressed when you are bliping the throttle
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 02:16 AM
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locked maybe?

I would if I could but I cant...kids these days
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
ok, depending on how educated you are and how far back your knowledge goes on transmissions before synchros... thats what you had to do... truck drivers etc... hmmmmm, i wonder then.
What does that have to do with our cars?
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by mikepasini

and chris, well you just seem like an *** to me one ball bigger than your head... your mad cause your different and you hate yourself cause your an idiot!

Yeah.. I hate myself because I'm an idiot. I'm not the one who tries to act like they know how to do an input shaft bearing.


I only come on here when I'm stoned, sometimes my comments are a bit harsh lol
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 11:41 AM
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yeah man, but i wasn't acting like i know how to "do" an input shaft bearing, it was what was explained to me...

and about the older trannys... people had to use that method to shift because of no synchros... so, now that we have synchros, if you use double clutching for downshifting, you are putting almost no stress/use of your synchros of the newere trannsmissions today... most people, push in the clutch, blip the throttle and let it out, but you are still using your synchros the same, you are almost bettter to just slip it out, other than im sure that wears the clutch more.

next time someone has ****ed snchros, try that method and it will slip in like butter. unless your gears are all ground to ****, but you can really save grinding the **** out of your gears.

anyone know if revving or "blipping" the throttle with the clutch pressed down put any excess wear on the clutch at all?
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 12:07 PM
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I use parking brake only, unless I am on a steep slope, or parked on snow/ice without snow tires.

As for downshifting, I apply brake first then just downshift, no need to rev match. I don't usually downshift to pass people on roads, just apply throttle and go.

When I race, I do heel-toe, yes, you need that to carry the exiting speed and avoid the car jerking cause you dont' brake 300 meters before the corner.
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
most people, push in the clutch, blip the throttle and let it out, but you are still using your synchros the same, you are almost bettter to just slip it out, other than im sure that wears the clutch more.
FINALLY!!! Someone agrees with me!!!!

Thats the point I was trying to make...

If you down-shift with out rev matching, it puts more stress on the tranny and syncros, and wares the clutch more than if you blip and rev-match while down-shifting...

However, if you just throw it in neutral and use the brakes, you don't ware the clutch at all...agreed with that all along

I'd just rather not depend on my brakes alone 100% of the time....I use em 50% and the engine 50% for braking down to about 2nd gear, then let the brakes do the rest...This way I'm not thrashing on the clutch and tranny by downsifting without rev-matching, and I'm making the brakes last alot longer than if I used them alone all the time..

I'll say it again, everyone has different opinions of what works best for them...drive how you wish...do what ever works best for you...

Now about this double-clutching stuff....these days it's not neccessary at all. modern tranny's with syncros make it so easy to shift quickly the normal way.
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just throw it in reverse at 60.. you will hear some noises.. harsh noises but its healthy TRY IT!
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Bryce
just throw it in reverse at 60.. you will hear some noises.. harsh noises but its healthy TRY IT!
Know what? I could careless on how you shift, press the clutch, blah blah blah.


Now 'trying' to drop it into R @ 60kph would be interesting to see & hear. Now only if I had a **** box to try this out on. (rubs chin)
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 04:05 PM
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There's a lockout so you can't do that.....

And if you did your transmission would be pooched in a matter of a few seconds after, it would grind the **** outta the idler gear and all the little metal chunks would grind everything else away.
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Originally posted by mikepasini
i dunno why you are getting in on this... mr. come to my house i have a crank pulley for you...

45mins to hamilton...
You asked me if i had one, so don't even start.

Originally posted by mikepasini
20mins risking life to take it off...
More like, 2 minutes of standing on an engine.



Thats ok, keep burning your bridges.
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idk why mike went after one of the nicest dudes on the website..oh mikey boy!
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awwwww, you're too kind zyph....i take bad my zyph is emo comments in that other thread.
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 05:36 PM
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you still my nikah..mainly because I can grab red rockets and have a place to eat lol..couple sundays from now we're grabbin grub
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A&W not good enough for you... my feelings are hurt zyeph...
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Old 22-Nov-2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by zeeman


You asked me if i had one, so don't even start.



More like, 2 minutes of standing on an engine.



Thats ok, keep burning your bridges.
you can't be serious??? it was a jk... hinting the lol... the whole thing was obviously exaggerated.
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