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Old 06-Nov-2005, 03:26 AM
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Is it necessary to let your car idle for a cold start?

Please read the following article and tell me what u think of it. Thanks

http://www.wcr.ab.ca/news/2002/0128/...up012802.shtml
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 04:50 AM
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very tru, my car takes for-phucking-ever to warm up on idle, faster way to warm up yer car is drive, just dont beat the shyt out of it as soon as u leave the driveway
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whoops i accidently quoted my original post
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 07:45 AM
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ok i read this and this is the only thing i cared to agree with and i quote "Some people clearly don't have enough to do."

i will idle my care until i feel the oil has become consistant and fluid. idlein for 20 seconds leaves the oil in a thick state and not very fluid which means it isnt doing the job. i would have shot the idiot for turning off my car, and i guess he shuts his car off at stop lights and in traffic too. usually it takes 5 minutes to get things the way i like in -20 degrees ( thats to get the oil temp to above 140 degrees F ) i would never geting in start it up and drive away.
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 08:34 AM
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ya, i agree with some ideas, but ya shutting someones car off is really pushing it. just think if you saw someone entering you car and reaching for the keys...how many people here would pop him...i'd probably do it or be close.

i idle my car in the winter for about 2-5 minutes depending how cold it is for safety as well. He failed to mention frosted windows are hard (and illegal) to see out of, so by idling the car for 2-5 minutes it allows them to defrost and will stop me from getting a ticket or accident, i'll gladly idle.

idling in the summer i agree with him or idling at a place you've parked at for like 10 minutes waiting for someone. unless its cold or hot, you don't need to idle in those circumstances.
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 10:02 AM
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Like last night, I stopped at a railway. I immediately turned off my car cause that was about 5 minutes. There was no point idle and wait for the train to pass.

But I do idle the car a bit in winter. Sometimes, it is so damn cold I could baraly shift. Something is gotta give.
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 11:42 AM
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This winter I'm going to invest some money into a block or coolant(?) heater.
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 11:48 AM
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ok i read this and this is the only thing i cared to agree with and i quote "Some people clearly don't have enough to do."

i will idle my care until i feel the oil has become consistant and fluid. idlein for 20 seconds leaves the oil in a thick state and not very fluid which means it isnt doing the job. i would have shot the idiot for turning off my car, and i guess he shuts his car off at stop lights and in traffic too. usually it takes 5 minutes to get things the way i like in -20 degrees ( thats to get the oil temp to above 140 degrees F ) i would never geting in start it up and drive away.
The Oracle has Spoken

He speaks the truth....it's not a matter of warming up your coolant but, it's the oil that needs to be warmed and made fluid.

Here's another misconception. For those who believe their heat doesn't come on right away well, there's an explanation to it. Once your coolant is warm enough, you'll have heat....hence, if you drive a D15-D16, it is absolutely normal for it to take forever and a day to get to that temperature where you have heat.

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I let mine run for 30-45 secs of idling in the driveway then I drive off. I dont let her rev high untill the temp gauge is optimum, but I also dont let it idle in the driveway for a long time, it just watses gas.
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 01:23 PM
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when its cold outside, i usually let my car run till the rpm's drop to normal, and the temp gauges starts moving up.
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 01:53 PM
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My idle depends on how new/old my oil is and how cold it is outside.

With clean oil the oil temp rises alot faster.

When im leaving work and its really cold out and i dont feel like siting in my works parking lot for 5 minutes ill just drive below 2k rpm until my temp gauge starts to move, then vtec it home
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does honda have an OEM block heater as an accessory?
does anyone have a block heater installed that is aftermarket?
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 08:30 PM
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some hondas came with it OEM

the best is an inline coolant heater, that way you dont risk burning the oil with a heater element
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 09:20 PM
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... am i the only one that uses my compustart remote starter in damn cold winter days?

especially at work when i know it's been snowing alot or it's been icy i'll turn it on 5 or 10 minutes before so then it's easy to take off the ice and snow... i'm also allergic to cold so it helps
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oh yeah i used my compustar in the winter all the time... its about a 5 min walk to my car from school so i just turn the car on as soon as i get out... by the time i get to my car its ready to go.
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im lucky enough to park in a very well insulated garage for another winter, so while at home, ill let the car idle for no more than a minute.

while im at school, maybe 3-4 minutes, really depends how long it was sitting, and how cold it is. luckily im not at school for 2+ hours except for one day, so idle times are more than likley to be lower.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but weren't block heaters designed for climates that are much much colder than ours? That's why there are very few Honda's with them around? It was an optional accessory that wasn't opted for by only a few.

From what I previously gathered, our climate is suitable to start a well maintained to not so sell maintained Honda engine fine with a proper warm-up routine.
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Old 07-Nov-2005, 04:27 PM
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Is it normal that my civic has about 1500 rpm in a cold start? then it drops very very slowly to about 1000rpm.....please tell me if it has some problem....
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B18C5er I live in Petawawa, ON which is about 1.5hrs north of Ottawa. There was a few days last winter my car and a few of friends vehicles wouldn't start because it was way to friggin cold.

spth38 - I guess it's normal my 2000 SiR does the same thing.


I'm just going to buy a coolant heater from Cdn Tire.
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Old 08-Nov-2005, 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by starboy869
B18C5er I live in Petawawa, ON which is about 1.5hrs north of Ottawa. There was a few days last winter my car and a few of friends vehicles wouldn't start because it was way to friggin cold.

spth38 - I guess it's normal my 2000 SiR does the same thing.


I'm just going to buy a coolant heater from Cdn Tire.
Oh... i hope it is.

btw, what is coolant heater? how much would it cost?
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