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Dyzee 24-Aug-2004 09:42 PM

My dillemma..someone help
 
(Note: All money is in CDN dollars priced out locally)

The All Motor Route

B20Z - 300$
(New piston rings - 100$)
SIR Tranny - 700$
VTEC head - 700$
GE VTEC conversion - 400$(this kit is complete.comes w/ dowell pins / headgasket / stainless steel line / sandwich adaptor /)
ARP rod bolts - 100$
ARP headstuds - 100$
Machine work - 200$ (mill the head)
Cam gears - 200$
Clutch - 500$
Cams - 1000$

Sub Total - $4300
Sell D16Z6 with tranny, axles, mounts - 500$

Sub Total $3800
Buy a beater - 1000$
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Total $4800



The Forced Induction Route


ACL Engine bearing kit - 250$
ARP Headbolts - 100$
Forged Pistons (JE,SRP, Weisco) 650$
Forged rods - 500$
Random OEM parts - 500$ (timing belt, water pump, some other stuff)
BOV - $300
Random piping/couplers - 400$
Dyno Tuning - 500$
Turbo - 150$ (Used, know a good place to get a deal)
Manifold - Custom - 100$
Intercooler - Custom - 100$
Clutch - 500$

Sub Total - 4050
Buy a beater - 1000$
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Total 5050


The buy a winter car that can be quick route

Keep civic stock and store for winter - Free
Buy a 1st Gen Eagle Talon - 2000$
Tune up - 500$
Make it run 13's - 300$

Subtotal - 2800$
Total - 2800$

bdotdan 24-Aug-2004 09:46 PM

i would go all motor cause i love the sound of high revving engines. why not just build the motor slowly on the side?

by doing this you'd be able to pick up a talon aswell cause your not dropping all your money at once.

bdotdan 24-Aug-2004 09:47 PM

and will will need tuning for the all motor route as well, you forgot that in your budget.

Dyzee 24-Aug-2004 09:50 PM

Ah crap. your right. Add in anohter 500$ there.

Cantonagod 24-Aug-2004 09:54 PM

Personally if you can afford it I would go turbo. It is just so much fun.

spracingsports 24-Aug-2004 09:55 PM

for all motor

and you forgot valves, springs and retainers... if you get a serious down to business cam, you will almost certainly need springs...

Dyzee 24-Aug-2004 09:56 PM

^^ also true.

Chalk up some more money to All Motor

bdotdan 24-Aug-2004 09:58 PM

yeah what sp said too, i was wondering why the all motor budget was lower than turbo, considering turbo is usually cheaper.
also what psi would you be running? cause you might need internal work as well for turbo

punkindrublic 24-Aug-2004 10:14 PM

endyn supercharger kit the b20 :thumbup:

dee123 24-Aug-2004 10:23 PM

Don't get a talon. They leak oil constantly, and overall, they're not a good driveline. I know ppl are going to argue, just my $.02.

Dyzee 24-Aug-2004 10:27 PM


Originally posted by dee123
Don't get a talon. They leak oil constantly, and overall, they're not a good driveline. I know ppl are going to argue, just my $.02.

I have 2 friends with talons. Both of which run mid 13's for little to no money. They go to the 1/4 mile track and beat on them day in day out...and they run fine with no problems.

Dyzee 24-Aug-2004 10:28 PM


Originally posted by bdotdan
yeah what sp said too, i was wondering why the all motor budget was lower than turbo, considering turbo is usually cheaper.
also what psi would you be running? cause you might need internal work as well for turbo

Internals on the D16 turbo are listed there. Forged pistons and rods...

Daily 10-12 PSI

Track 16-18

electronblue 24-Aug-2004 10:43 PM

Planning on drag racing the vehicle??

If so the answer would be Talon...

Civic can still be the daily driver.

bdotdan 24-Aug-2004 10:45 PM

sorry wasn't paying attention, my bad

dee123 24-Aug-2004 10:48 PM

Drag only - talon awd. I wouldn't want it as a driver, though. JMO.

TranceaddicT 25-Aug-2004 01:10 AM

https://img78.photobucket.com/albums...zee/Avatar.jpg
i like ur civic! looks soo Clean, love the color. u should have photoshoot one day and post it up! ur car is mint! :)

T-Shirt Ninja 25-Aug-2004 01:13 AM

Low boost turbo, cheapest way to have fun with a civic imo, plus once tuned properly its good as a daily driver.

You need some sort of engine management for it though, uberdata is free all you need to do is socket your ecu to make chipping easy when you make new fuel/ign maps.

Gunmetalef 25-Aug-2004 01:22 AM

i hear that forged pistons and rods dont last too long?

DoubaD 25-Aug-2004 02:19 AM

go all motor, that way you keep the option to boost that next year if you want, plus eagle talons are a bigger investment then just buying the thing, maintaining it will probably cost more then the cars worth

spracingsports 25-Aug-2004 04:03 AM

lightly turbocharging the civic will increase gas mileage right??


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