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s2000cr 02-Dec-2008 08:38 PM

Looking for a 99-00 sir...very disappointing search
 
I am very disheartened after looking for a few weeks for a 99-00 Honda Civic SIR. Every single one I find has either been salvaged, hidden accident vehicle, theft recovery, repaint, misc mechanical stuff not working, paint in poor condition, engine swapped with no paperwork, interior in horrible condition.

I want this car because I owned it as a kid and I can't explain why I want it other then that. It was a joy to own. It is very disheartening to see that pride of ownership is virtually non existent in these cars. When I sold my cars, they were immaculate with respect to mechanical condition and cleanliness. I know it is a 9-10 year old car, but I sold my civic after 8 years and it was gorgeous.

On top of all this, some people are out to lunch on the value. These horrible condition cars have ranged from 5k-12k in asking price. I am absolutely beside myself as to how these horrible condition cars can be listed for so much.

Am I expecting too much?

zeeman 02-Dec-2008 09:09 PM

yup.
People think their stuff is gold. Its hard to find a nice civic/integra that hasn't been raped by some 16-23 year old, if you find one, its usually not in the best shape.

Fr0z3N 02-Dec-2008 10:14 PM

get outta the honda game before it eats you.....then your babies

MPR 02-Dec-2008 11:19 PM

The 2000 civic SiR that I own has had a not so good life before it fell in my hands. But the story has a happy ending...

It began life, originally sold in Florida as a usdm Si model. Over it's life time, it has been salvaged not once but twice (as shown on it's carfax report), and though I wasn't told by the previous owner or salesman, I can tell it has been stolen at least once as well. The previous owner before me brought it up here to Canada (changed the badging, gauge cluster) where I bought it and has finally been given the loving home it deserves. (lol, sounds like I'm talking about a pet).

It had 90,000kms (supposedly) on it when I bought it in feb 06 and now has just broken the 200,000km distance. Do I care about it's path? No. Not now anyways. Because I know the car inside out. I know the car is solid and it has never ever given me any trouble what so ever. Nor has it left me stranded. The engine runs mint, not burning any oil (no blue smoke at all) and has recently put down very healthy numbers on the dyno for a stock B16A2. All I've done is routine maintenance and your typical timing belt every 100k etc...

I guess what I'm saying is, it is possible to buy a car with a horrible past and still have it be as reliable and good as any unmolested car.

But I do agree it is hard to find mint original cars these days, especially rare Honda's. People steal them and rip them apart for their guts. It is a sad reality for us Honda folk.

s2000cr 02-Dec-2008 11:31 PM

I would not mind a salvage or theft recovery vehicle as long as I am the one making the repairs/replacements. Maybe I will go that route and buy one that has been salvaged and or recovered theft and replace the stuff myself. At least that way I can make sure things are done right.

gavin.p89 03-Dec-2008 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by zeeman (Post 150039)
yup.
People think their stuff is gold. Its hard to find a nice civic/integra that hasn't been raped by some 16-23 year old, if you find one, its usually not in the best shape.

I belive i found a great honda, 98 coupe dx 5 speed
Car had 126,xxx kms, bought it from orgional owner a 62 yr old guy (my friends neighbour) the old guy bought is as an economical car, then when he started taking care of his grand kids so he bought a jeep. The car sat in his garage for 1.5 yrs. All the matiantance records came with the car, it was serviced at honda for evey oil change (never more that 5,000 apart). But he had not down the timing belt or water pump yet. He sold it to me as is $2000. He krowned it every year and only drove it in the wonter to go out of town (he lived downtown and was able to walk everywhere). I had to do the tps sensor it was throwing a code, gave it a little tlc, got is safetied and then parked it for the winter. Only issue with the car are is a press in dent on the pass door, lke someone hit the door while backing out of a parking spot, and the front bumper is cracked.
So you can find a good honda for an ok price that hasn't been abused.

kIeRaN 03-Dec-2008 06:59 PM

just keep looking man, i was looking for my del sol for about 3 months before i found mine... original owner, no accidents, clean carfax report :)
Just be patient and it will come. Cheer up and be positive!

zeeman 03-Dec-2008 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by gavin.p89 (Post 150148)
I belive i found a great honda, 98 coupe dx 5 speed
Car had 126,xxx kms, bought it from orgional owner a 62 yr old guy (my friends neighbour) the old guy bought is as an economical car, then when he started taking care of his grand kids so he bought a jeep. The car sat in his garage for 1.5 yrs. All the matiantance records came with the car, it was serviced at honda for evey oil change (never more that 5,000 apart). But he had not down the timing belt or water pump yet. He sold it to me as is $2000. He krowned it every year and only drove it in the wonter to go out of town (he lived downtown and was able to walk everywhere). I had to do the tps sensor it was throwing a code, gave it a little tlc, got is safetied and then parked it for the winter. Only issue with the car are is a press in dent on the pass door, lke someone hit the door while backing out of a parking spot, and the front bumper is cracked.
So you can find a good honda for an ok price that hasn't been abused.

Nice. I got mine from a 40 year old lady who was moving to germany and couldn't take it with her, she was the first and only owner and had crazy amounts of receipts. I got mine down in cincinnati, ohio though when I lived there (from 1998-2003). The winters down there were extremely mild. 2" of snow would send people into panic and close schools. It would snow maybe 5 times all winter, so the car was never exposed to crappy winters, until I came back up here. I'm not gunna not drive a civic in the winter, even with it being as modified as it is.

Keep looking, you'll find one you like/want eventually. I looked for a good 3-4 months solid before I found mine. All the good ones were sold by the time I called.

s2000cr 03-Dec-2008 11:00 PM

Realistically, what should I be aiming to pay since the price gap is just rediculous. Lets say original everything in very good condition with 150k. What would be a reasonable price to pay? I can't see it being worth more then 6k.

Any input?

Fr0z3N 03-Dec-2008 11:28 PM

6-10

s2000cr 03-Dec-2008 11:42 PM

^your responses have been pretty useless thus far.

kIeRaN 03-Dec-2008 11:46 PM

hmmm is the SIR gonna be a winter car? If it is why does it need to be so perfect, find a cheap 92-95 and be on your way!

s2000cr 04-Dec-2008 12:00 AM

No, not a winter car. My s2k does just fine. I just want another car for those times when I need the extra space and besides I used to love this car as a kid so its partly because of that reason!

kIeRaN 04-Dec-2008 08:20 AM

haha youre nuts man! I would hate driving a beautiful nice new CR in our crappy winter!

kingjames1983 04-Dec-2008 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by s2000cr (Post 150532)
No, not a winter car. My s2k does just fine. I just want another car for those times when I need the extra space and besides I used to love this car as a kid so its partly because of that reason!

I just bought a new car... 4 door so I am selling my 96 civic si. Its been babbied to death.... no skirts or anything like that. Just painted 3 coats of paint and 7 of clear then a nice wet sand to smooth it out. It has a b16a with the head built stg 2 cams, valvetrain upgraded, shaved head, etc. Interior is stock has Konig helium rims with Toyo rubber... lots of life. PIC coilovers, WS2 exhaust so its nice and quiet. Upgraded clutch and lightwieght flywheel and tons more. The car was tuned by Nick at Teknotik and puts down 160 to the wheels.

Let me know if you are interested.

s2000cr 04-Dec-2008 10:44 AM

^sorry, I am not interested.

s2000cr 04-Dec-2008 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by kIeRaN (Post 150555)
haha youre nuts man! I would hate driving a beautiful nice new CR in our crappy winter!

I love the way this car drives in the winter. 5 days a week I am in new york state and it handles the winter there just fine. I am actually surprised at how well it goes though the snow. Heats up super fast...much faster then any civic in the winter.

The search continues...

kingjames1983 04-Dec-2008 11:35 AM

wow I think my car is a steal at 5500

s2000cr 04-Dec-2008 02:38 PM

Sorry, looking for a 99-00 SIR. Your car unfortunately is not. Sorry.

nubz0r 07-Dec-2008 06:22 PM

I've been looking around as well, same as you, lots of junk out there, I had a 97 Si, it was one of my fav. cars, I'm thinking of just getting another one of those and doing a swap.


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