Legal or not legal?
#62
Originally posted by Stock96Hatch
Can anyone provide a link to ANY article, video, or news bit about an accident leading to injury or death DUE TO carbon body panels entering the cabin?
Anyways, CF Hoods are NOT illegal according to the local constabulary.
I'll wait to see pics of any CF hoods chopping off heads
LOL
I *just* confirmed (in person, 30 mins ago) with 5-Division that there is NOTHING illegal about a CF hood. The officer I spoke with has training with "anti-street racing" (LOL).
Got any info to back up your earlier statment?
Once again, my car is 100% legal.
<< non-alcoholic drink, also legal.
Can anyone provide a link to ANY article, video, or news bit about an accident leading to injury or death DUE TO carbon body panels entering the cabin?
Anyways, CF Hoods are NOT illegal according to the local constabulary.
I'll wait to see pics of any CF hoods chopping off heads
LOL
I *just* confirmed (in person, 30 mins ago) with 5-Division that there is NOTHING illegal about a CF hood. The officer I spoke with has training with "anti-street racing" (LOL).
Got any info to back up your earlier statment?
Once again, my car is 100% legal.
<< non-alcoholic drink, also legal.
#63
tints r illegal???
but i got mine done at the dealership and they said i have to keep it ay 35% front and whatever darkness i want around the rear so its not illegal. so how can tinting windows be illegal?
but i got mine done at the dealership and they said i have to keep it ay 35% front and whatever darkness i want around the rear so its not illegal. so how can tinting windows be illegal?
#64
Originally posted by hdave
tints r illegal???
but i got mine done at the dealership and they said i have to keep it ay 35% front and whatever darkness i want around the rear so its not illegal. so how can tinting windows be illegal?
tints r illegal???
but i got mine done at the dealership and they said i have to keep it ay 35% front and whatever darkness i want around the rear so its not illegal. so how can tinting windows be illegal?
#65
Originally posted by szuberi
^^ thats what i thought.
the only illegal item i have is the smoked licence plate cover. i need to get a clear one soon.
^^ thats what i thought.
the only illegal item i have is the smoked licence plate cover. i need to get a clear one soon.
technically clear is illegal too . their should be nothing covering your plate
#66
Originally posted by Team Rukus
you got your answer from a guy who is an individual who doesnt CLEARLY know enough about the automotive standards in canada. There are laws and regulations set out to every car manufacturer in canada and car importer (ie subaru) that states front end of a vehicle must be able to absorb certain g forces and MUST be a crumple zone and a barrier from the passanger and driver being directly impacted from the impact zone. Carbon fibre hood doesnt NOT act as a crumple device and does NOT absorb impact hence it makes the g forces continue to travel into the compartment and affect the passangers of the vehicle. THIS ALONE makes it illegal.
you got your answer from a guy who is an individual who doesnt CLEARLY know enough about the automotive standards in canada. There are laws and regulations set out to every car manufacturer in canada and car importer (ie subaru) that states front end of a vehicle must be able to absorb certain g forces and MUST be a crumple zone and a barrier from the passanger and driver being directly impacted from the impact zone. Carbon fibre hood doesnt NOT act as a crumple device and does NOT absorb impact hence it makes the g forces continue to travel into the compartment and affect the passangers of the vehicle. THIS ALONE makes it illegal.
Anyways, my hood is not DOT approved, and I haven't seen any DOT markings on any aftermarket body parts (steel or otherwise) in many years. Could you direct me to some links indicating that body panels must be DOT approved for a vehicle to be street legal?
You really need to think about the physics before you make a statement like the above. If somehow the front end caved in by say TWO FEET (how fast would I have to go and what would I have to hit?) then I could see the hood flexing and starting to crack. It would be held by the front latch, and the mounting hardware at the rear. If the latch gave way, AND the rear hardware sheared off, I could see the hood popping off the car.
If there is some CF hood that DOES NOT FLEX AT ALL, and has a sharp/rough edge (WTF??) maybe, JUST MAYBE it could cut through the windshield (???) and the pillars (??!?!?) lmao... I'm sorry man, I just don't see this happening with regular driving. ****, at 300km/hr into a brick wall, I think you would be worried more about surviving the impact. Look at the position of the hood, versus the angle of the windshield/pillars, and the direction of travel as well as the impact forces. We're not talking about JEEP TJ's with rigid & rough edged CF hoods that do 300km/hr.
Corona 12-pack to anyone posting a verifiable link to a story or pics showing a CF hood entering the cabin of a passenger vehicle unintentionally and killing/injuring the occupants. Pickup only. LOL.
#72
Originally posted by Stock96Hatch
Two words - Z16 Corvette.
Anyways, my hood is not DOT approved, and I haven't seen any DOT markings on any aftermarket body parts (steel or otherwise) in many years. Could you direct me to some links indicating that body panels must be DOT approved for a vehicle to be street legal?
You really need to think about the physics before you make a statement like the above. If somehow the front end caved in by say TWO FEET (how fast would I have to go and what would I have to hit?) then I could see the hood flexing and starting to crack. It would be held by the front latch, and the mounting hardware at the rear. If the latch gave way, AND the rear hardware sheared off, I could see the hood popping off the car.
If there is some CF hood that DOES NOT FLEX AT ALL, and has a sharp/rough edge (WTF??) maybe, JUST MAYBE it could cut through the windshield (???) and the pillars (??!?!?) lmao... I'm sorry man, I just don't see this happening with regular driving. ****, at 300km/hr into a brick wall, I think you would be worried more about surviving the impact. Look at the position of the hood, versus the angle of the windshield/pillars, and the direction of travel as well as the impact forces. We're not talking about JEEP TJ's with rigid & rough edged CF hoods that do 300km/hr.
Corona 12-pack to anyone posting a verifiable link to a story or pics showing a CF hood entering the cabin of a passenger vehicle unintentionally and killing/injuring the occupants. Pickup only. LOL.
Two words - Z16 Corvette.
Anyways, my hood is not DOT approved, and I haven't seen any DOT markings on any aftermarket body parts (steel or otherwise) in many years. Could you direct me to some links indicating that body panels must be DOT approved for a vehicle to be street legal?
You really need to think about the physics before you make a statement like the above. If somehow the front end caved in by say TWO FEET (how fast would I have to go and what would I have to hit?) then I could see the hood flexing and starting to crack. It would be held by the front latch, and the mounting hardware at the rear. If the latch gave way, AND the rear hardware sheared off, I could see the hood popping off the car.
If there is some CF hood that DOES NOT FLEX AT ALL, and has a sharp/rough edge (WTF??) maybe, JUST MAYBE it could cut through the windshield (???) and the pillars (??!?!?) lmao... I'm sorry man, I just don't see this happening with regular driving. ****, at 300km/hr into a brick wall, I think you would be worried more about surviving the impact. Look at the position of the hood, versus the angle of the windshield/pillars, and the direction of travel as well as the impact forces. We're not talking about JEEP TJ's with rigid & rough edged CF hoods that do 300km/hr.
Corona 12-pack to anyone posting a verifiable link to a story or pics showing a CF hood entering the cabin of a passenger vehicle unintentionally and killing/injuring the occupants. Pickup only. LOL.
#74
stiff springs are not illegal and i can't imagine minor tint being illegal... otherwise, they'd shut down the dozens of shops selling tint... Compare to delivery trucks that PAINT the windows. Excessive tint on the front-side windows is illegal. Any tint on the windshield is illegal, if it obstructs the view of the driver (up to the cop, not the driver).
I sent an email to ERASE so we'll see what they have to say...
DJM:>
I sent an email to ERASE so we'll see what they have to say...
DJM:>
#75
ERASE sent a response regarding two thing: Carbon Fibre and Stiff Springs:
Hi Dave,
You are correct on the lowering or suspension changes on the car. It is legal as long as the body or other components don’t come into contact with the wheels.
Carbon fibre body panels are “legally ok” as well. Just make sure that they are secured and properly mounted….
Just for your information, your insurance company may have concerns about the body panel replacement items. Body panels are an integral part of some vehicles safety systems and crush zones that assist in absorbing/dissipating energy.
The choice is yours,
Sgt. Mitchell
Project ERASE
You are correct on the lowering or suspension changes on the car. It is legal as long as the body or other components don’t come into contact with the wheels.
Carbon fibre body panels are “legally ok” as well. Just make sure that they are secured and properly mounted….
Just for your information, your insurance company may have concerns about the body panel replacement items. Body panels are an integral part of some vehicles safety systems and crush zones that assist in absorbing/dissipating energy.
The choice is yours,
Sgt. Mitchell
Project ERASE
#76
Illegal:
Non-DOT approved headlamp housings-----mine are not approved
Cut springs-----car is stock height
Excessively stiff suspension-----stock suspension
Non-DOT tires-----it dunt say DOT on my tires
Excessively lowered
*(if you can't clear 99.9% of the speed bumps out there, it's too low)-----i can't clear em all
No horn-----i have a horn but no air bag
No license plate lights-----no light there
Improperly colored turn signals, headlamps, or tail lights-----my turn signals are wrong
Non-clear or colored license plate covers-----no cover
Excessively loud exhaust-----it's pretty loud, a 2.5" tip
Punched, gutted, or missing catalytic-----it's there, i have a catback exhaust
Anything vented to atmosphere that should not be-----both my fenders are vented, is that allowed??
damn.. i shud be more carefull.. hahaha...
Non-DOT approved headlamp housings-----mine are not approved
Cut springs-----car is stock height
Excessively stiff suspension-----stock suspension
Non-DOT tires-----it dunt say DOT on my tires
Excessively lowered
*(if you can't clear 99.9% of the speed bumps out there, it's too low)-----i can't clear em all
No horn-----i have a horn but no air bag
No license plate lights-----no light there
Improperly colored turn signals, headlamps, or tail lights-----my turn signals are wrong
Non-clear or colored license plate covers-----no cover
Excessively loud exhaust-----it's pretty loud, a 2.5" tip
Punched, gutted, or missing catalytic-----it's there, i have a catback exhaust
Anything vented to atmosphere that should not be-----both my fenders are vented, is that allowed??
damn.. i shud be more carefull.. hahaha...
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