killing and starting car...
 

ok my friend and i were talking about this... and we both do it differently and i was wondering if it is a big deal or not..

when i kill, park and start my car i always leave it or have it in 1st gear.

he always does those in neutral (he parks it in 1st, but puts in in neutral before startup)

is there a proper way to do it? or are they both acceptable?

great question... I do either or... it doesn't matter since the cranking speed is very low, so it's virtually no wear at all on any components. Mostly I do it all in 1st gear like you.

I ussually do the put it in netrual if the clutch doesn't disengage when I push the pedal down to start it I won't risk the car going through the minivan at home since the cars are parked so close...

but thats just me I don't think there's a "right" or "wrong" way of doing it

I alway's start and stop in neutral just cause that's what I grew up doing..bikes, trucks, machinery etc always started in neutral...especially on bikes cause the clutch woudl drag and the bike would move and bog then stall..(mx bikes)

I always put it in neutral just because I know I'm going to let go of the clutch pedal to get comfortable and put my seat belt on and other crap like that. There is no real proper way, but doing it in neutral would be safer I guess.

I do neutral as well, just in case I forget and take my foot off the clutch, so I dont stall and move forward into the garage.

ok i was just curious if it was harmfull to do it one of the two ways..

when i was taught to drive stick i was told to at least always park the car in gear.... but startup was up to me...

neutral it is for me

I do neutral as well (I have a remote starter on my car)

The reason for leaving it in gear is a back up in case the e-brake fails. The car will then stay put because the engine will be engaged. If you leave it in neutral, the car may roll. I leave mine in second, the higher gear ratio will be a greater resistance to rolling.

Depends for me.

2nd gear or R depending on the slope my car is parked on.

Always start in neutral
 

Ideally, always start in neutral, unless there is a hill or something weird like that.
I'm too lazy to explain why. I've got a master's degree in engineering and I've held dissasembled trannies in my hands, so I've got a little bit of credibility here.

Especially on motorbikes, the clutch drag is noticeable.

I start my car in 1st all the time. Motorcycles, I start in Neutral. I learned in riding school...FINE-C (Fuel ****, Ignition key, Neutral, Engine kill switch then Choke). For those with injected bikes, I guess it would just be "INE".

I also have an Engineering degree and work as an automotive Engineer. Some may agree that I have "some" credibility.

I don't think it is necessary to put a Honda MT in neutral when starting. I can't see it causing any more wear than idling at a set of lights, waiting for it to change and be on the clutch. (provided the clutch is depressed for a short time). I've never changed a clutch on any of the cars I owned and I would say I have driven about 500,000 km on manual transmissioned cars....

Oh, and my Engineering thesis was on automatic transmissions.

Bow down to the master lol :notworthy

You are supposed to always be in gear. The best gear to be in while parked is second. If in first or reverse and you start the car and your foot slips off the clutch pedal the car will dart forwards (if in first) or backwards (if in reverse). If there is something infront or behind you you could hit it. Parked in second the car is in gear and wont roll away on you. Start the car put it in first and take off, or reverse if needed, we all know most hondas cant drive over a curb, my buddy tried on day, $2000 damage, ouch!

I always start in neutral. I had a bad experience with starting in first one time.

I don't think it matters what gear you start in if you do it right, even if your foot slips off in first the car isn't gonna go far...
I always parked in first just incase my e-brake snapped or something...

well you can crank walk the bitch cranking the motor is the clutch and a big ass PP like 2600 -2900 lbs pp :eek: common in dsm's and supra's because of the high clamp loads they need and crankign with the clutch engaged and idleing with clutch ingages put's huge stress on trust bearings then crank walk :cool:

UHHHHH..... english please....

all i got in that was:



crank walk....... blah blah..... :eek: .......blah blah..... stress...... crank walk........ :cool:

i park in first leave it in first then pull into neutural when starting, simply because i know my foots coming off the clutch right away to adjust seat, mirrors, cd player, let warm up ect. and its bad for the throwout bearing to have the clutch depresed longer than in and out.