Tyson09

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Trying to bring an engine across the border, any ideas to not get dinged with tax?

the guy is driving it himself but i guess he didn't want to play the pretend nothing is in the car game.

DumbasSi

Do you pay anything on used parts?

Tyson09

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like at a junkyard or do you mean when crossing the border?

gavin.p89

I thought there was free trade for auto parts, but not labour.

DumbasSi

When crossing the border. The motor could be junk for all they know. I dont know how they could set a price on used parts.

Tyson09

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oh this is a fully built motor btw

Tyson09

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see thats what i thought so im guessing the guy must have told the whole story that i bought it and such

gavin.p89

just tell them it is seized, you are buying it for scrap. Or pay a wrecker from the states to give you a fake reciept and pay tax on that

Tyson09

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yea see i thought of all this, i think they just told the duty man that i bought it so his ears would perk up cuz he'd get some money out of it

Xscorpio

should have drove down there, get the swap done and drove it back

thats if you have all that time

Tyson09

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i wish, but it all needs to get broken in and i have so much more to get done on this build, the car is sittin in my garage with no heart beat.

fingolfin

interesting..

what if you tell them its your engine, and you where getting work done on it?

Tyson09

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yea im pretty sure they cant do **** if there is no paper trails...im thinkin he's just going to have to write up a letter giving it to me as a gift

gavin.p89

A gift the might not belive you, just write a letter saying you bought it really cheap as it is a blown engine.

Tyson09

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yea thats what we are going to do , say its a junker that i picked up for 100 bucks ...as long as they get something out of it im sure they will be fine. just as long as i dont get a honda enthusist and knows his ****, but even if it looks nice as long as i have a bill of sale with the vin number and the guys name/signature then im good


any good meeting spots in niagra falls american side?
that are easy to get too?

FiveO

Think hard about this one. You're going to tell the Customs agent that you went down to the US to buy a seized motor for a Honda? What, they don't have any available locally? If you get one who's even partly on the ball, that agent could very easily question both your description of the engine and the valuation you put on it. If your story smells even a little bit doubtful, they can pull you off to the side and keep you there until they decide to let you go, or not.

There is no "innocent till proven guilty" at the border. If they don't believe you, it's up to YOU to prove your case. If they challenge you and you can't prove your case to their satisfaction, they can simply seize the goods and send you on your way without them. On top of that, your name will be on their watch list for many many years.

Or they can go further.

The penalties for making a false customs declaration include payment of taxes on the undeclared amount plus an equivalent amount in fine.

If they really want to get nasty with you, they can seize the vehicle that you used to bring over the improperly declared goods.

There is no import duty on used parts. You pay only the GST at the border. It's not worth the potential hurt to save a piddly 5% in GST charges at the border when the potential penalties are so steep and long-lasting.

I don't know how much that engine is worth, but 5% on $1000 is only $50. If you get caught trying to save such a piddly amount of money, you're going to look awfully stupid.

gavin.p89

FiveO again has a very vaild point, you have to access the the risk.

Thanks FiveO

Tyson09

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its actually trying to save 600 bucks, if it was 50 i would have no problem paying that, believe me.

im pretty sure having a bill of sale i'll be ok, im still looking into it a bit more

FiveO

You would be required to pay GST on the value of the labour and parts involved in that work

gavin.p89

Your engine is $12,000