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#21
Jason, my god, give it a break man
You keep going on and on and on, it sounds like your a spokesperson for leitner. Im sure you have heard stories of how good their work was, but like every person out there, everyone is bound to screw up once in awhile nobdoy is perfect.
While I have never had work done by Leitner, I dont think you have either, so I am not going to post anything negative, but I think its time you stay out of this one and let the people WITH experience post up so chillenit can get what he wants..
FEEDBACK, not a SPOKESPERSON
You keep going on and on and on, it sounds like your a spokesperson for leitner. Im sure you have heard stories of how good their work was, but like every person out there, everyone is bound to screw up once in awhile nobdoy is perfect.
While I have never had work done by Leitner, I dont think you have either, so I am not going to post anything negative, but I think its time you stay out of this one and let the people WITH experience post up so chillenit can get what he wants..
FEEDBACK, not a SPOKESPERSON
#22
Originally posted by gatherer
cylinder 3 on type r's are known to crack in stock form if the header manifold allows too much back pressure to build up it's a weak point in the design .. and could quite easily be the same thing with a sleeved block... I know a guy that put a rod right through a type r block ... guess which rod it was? cylinder 3
now I have one question since Lienter was doing the sleeving why didn't you have him do final assembly of the block? I'd have to agree with Leitner it was the final assembly of the block... I've heard of leitner's shop and all the good things that have been said about it but I have never in the racing circles I travel heard of Chris Tapp or Tapp Auto....
18 PSI on race fuel? what was the compression ratio you had on your setup and the octane level of the gas?
cylinder 3 on type r's are known to crack in stock form if the header manifold allows too much back pressure to build up it's a weak point in the design .. and could quite easily be the same thing with a sleeved block... I know a guy that put a rod right through a type r block ... guess which rod it was? cylinder 3
now I have one question since Lienter was doing the sleeving why didn't you have him do final assembly of the block? I'd have to agree with Leitner it was the final assembly of the block... I've heard of leitner's shop and all the good things that have been said about it but I have never in the racing circles I travel heard of Chris Tapp or Tapp Auto....
18 PSI on race fuel? what was the compression ratio you had on your setup and the octane level of the gas?
I chose not to get it built by Steve because I trusted my mechnaics at Tapp Auto. Chris Tapp is a known tuner and mechanic in the area. Mainly gets his business from the Ottawa and Montreal area. Check out his website for details www.tappauto.com
In reference to having Steve buld my block, well....my friend that cracked his sleeve at the end of last summer was built and assembled by Steve's father at Leitner, explain that one? Again this was blamed on the tuner because it drove fine for 2 months and then took a poop on him?
18psi on Race fuel yes, C16 to be exact. 8.5:1 Weisco pistons from Steve himself. Timing was very conservative when it was tuned as well. Im not here to cut anyone down, im merely replaying the facts and my experience. It came down to a game of he said she said and I just cut my losses and moved on. I am happy that I did and won't look back.
What bugs me is people getting taken and not be taken care of. My friend that cracked his sleeve last year that I just mentioned had his motor assembled by Leitner just recently, last week. He has a sleeved Dart Race block. he is having all sorts of problems with it now. He chose to stick with Steve Leitner and this is what he's running into again.
#24
Originally posted by gatherer
I've heard of leitner's shop and all the good things that have been said about it but I have never in the racing circles I travel heard of Chris Tapp or Tapp Auto....
I've heard of leitner's shop and all the good things that have been said about it but I have never in the racing circles I travel heard of Chris Tapp or Tapp Auto....
He is into building street cars, drag cars and track cars. Just check the website out and see for yourself.
#26
...bump for you Tarcy...(sexiest teg in the city)
and yup, i will vouch for everything he said about Tapp, you can't blame it on his tuning, because last time i checked, his tuning doesn't suck since his dyno time is booked for the next 2 months!
ps: heh, even though he doesnt go from race to race and doesnt try to be fastest, he still is, 10.3 talon!!!
and yup, i will vouch for everything he said about Tapp, you can't blame it on his tuning, because last time i checked, his tuning doesn't suck since his dyno time is booked for the next 2 months!
ps: heh, even though he doesnt go from race to race and doesnt try to be fastest, he still is, 10.3 talon!!!
#27
I've heard quite a few stories about Leitner's work and not all of them have been good stories.
I also know since Leitner is a sponsor, there are people that are afraid to say anything negative about them in fear of getting banned or other negative reprecussions.
I also know since Leitner is a sponsor, there are people that are afraid to say anything negative about them in fear of getting banned or other negative reprecussions.
#28
Originally posted by JookSingKid
I've heard quite a few stories about Leitner's work and not all of them have been good stories.
I also know since Leitner is a sponsor, there are people that are afraid to say anything negative about them in fear of getting banned or other negative reprecussions.
I've heard quite a few stories about Leitner's work and not all of them have been good stories.
I also know since Leitner is a sponsor, there are people that are afraid to say anything negative about them in fear of getting banned or other negative reprecussions.
#29
Originally posted by m power
OUCH. go to Gord Bush to get your block sleeved. problem solved. if you buy AEBS, Darton, whatever, he'll show you the box that they were shipped in and his installs are flawless. its just another casualty..
OUCH. go to Gord Bush to get your block sleeved. problem solved. if you buy AEBS, Darton, whatever, he'll show you the box that they were shipped in and his installs are flawless. its just another casualty..
#31
You could even speak to one of Toronto's own, Paul Bawhan (sp) of Splitfire Performance. He had a Leitner block back in the day he too has some feedback. Just give him a call and see for yourself, I did.
#32
Originally posted by BOOSTN
Chris Tapp doesn't have time to go form track to track and race to race. He is not about being recognized as the fastest guy around. He's more about building/tuning fast cars and seeing his customers go away happy. He has built himslef a reputation well enough to not have to worry about advertising and getting out there. Im sure if he had more time on his hands he would.
He is into building street cars, drag cars and track cars. Just check the website out and see for yourself.
Chris Tapp doesn't have time to go form track to track and race to race. He is not about being recognized as the fastest guy around. He's more about building/tuning fast cars and seeing his customers go away happy. He has built himslef a reputation well enough to not have to worry about advertising and getting out there. Im sure if he had more time on his hands he would.
He is into building street cars, drag cars and track cars. Just check the website out and see for yourself.
what I said was I've never heard of him in the racing circles ... which means when I hang out with a bunch of other race car drivers from all over Ontario I never hear his mentioned by them. however Leitner's name is recommended quite often. while I don't know many peopel in the drag racing world I do know people that race in Solo 2 solo 1 Road racing and F2000 I know people from Ottawa to Windsor and not a single one has ever mentioned his shop (whether good or bad doesn't matter just never mentioned)
anyways Loudsubz, I'm speaking from experience but I choose not to share what was done with anyone. I'm happy thats all
now I remember why I stopped hanging around here... it's becoming like honda tech... better watch where I step
#34
a T top sleeve woudl be or shoudl be pretty hard to crack I mean a pistons would melt or your a/f ratio wodul show lean or you woudl shwo detontation....I can beleive that they messed up and nwo run different sleeves...but a race engine is not warrantied so you get what you pay for so buyer beware...if yoru worried stick with darton sleeves etc....leitner isn't god and feed back is necessary even though they are affiliates...hopefully they got the sleeve thign sorted out for leitner's sake....
#36
this doesn't even belong in this forum
let's be real ppl... we don't know **** about the situation. unless YOUR block cracked or whatever... don't fu(king say a word. we don't care what you heard. speak from YOUR experience, otherwise you're just slandering (or is it libel since it's written ) a very dear affiliate.
so this should remain open to see if ANYONE HERE has had any problems, and we'll give Steve a chance to answer.
let's be real ppl... we don't know **** about the situation. unless YOUR block cracked or whatever... don't fu(king say a word. we don't care what you heard. speak from YOUR experience, otherwise you're just slandering (or is it libel since it's written ) a very dear affiliate.
so this should remain open to see if ANYONE HERE has had any problems, and we'll give Steve a chance to answer.
#37
Originally posted by bbarbulo
this doesn't even belong in this forum
let's be real ppl... we don't know **** about the situation. unless YOUR block cracked or whatever... don't fu(king say a word. we don't care what you heard. speak from YOUR experience, otherwise you're just slandering (or is it libel since it's written ) a very dear affiliate.
so this should remain open to see if ANYONE HERE has had any problems, and we'll give Steve a chance to answer.
this doesn't even belong in this forum
let's be real ppl... we don't know **** about the situation. unless YOUR block cracked or whatever... don't fu(king say a word. we don't care what you heard. speak from YOUR experience, otherwise you're just slandering (or is it libel since it's written ) a very dear affiliate.
so this should remain open to see if ANYONE HERE has had any problems, and we'll give Steve a chance to answer.
I bet you will find enough people to back up what I stated from the Toronto area. Like I said call the shops around the area I did, and it's something I should have done before I went to him.
#38
I don't think that's what bruno meant,
but i'm understanding the gist of his post... stop whoring up the thread, and let ppl that have meaningful posts to make make them... it's that easy... it only takes ONE post to put up your opinion... that's it, not 10 or 15... just ONE.,.. if you wanna change it, then EDIT it.... reading thru two pages of heavy reading, but reading the same things over and over and over again doesn't help anyone... if you have an experience postive or negative post it, and let it be....
but i'm understanding the gist of his post... stop whoring up the thread, and let ppl that have meaningful posts to make make them... it's that easy... it only takes ONE post to put up your opinion... that's it, not 10 or 15... just ONE.,.. if you wanna change it, then EDIT it.... reading thru two pages of heavy reading, but reading the same things over and over and over again doesn't help anyone... if you have an experience postive or negative post it, and let it be....