shlammed

or maybe this thing will be diesel and along with the 140HP will come 230lbs of torque??????????????

heheh

Does Mark still come on here? MySIR or whatever his name was i forget...he works honda R&D

DumbasSi

Diesels make more sense then these stupid hybrid vehicles. How many do they reallt sell? Id take a torquey diesel over a hybrid anyday.

I think he still does, but he usually wont say anything online.

MPR

Depends, if the hybrid system is done properly, meaning a fully electric vehicle with only a small gas/diesel range extending ICE (internal combustion engine) which only drives a generator that sustains state of charge to achieve a significant range of travel and the electric drive motor has enough guts for decent performance (like the tesla roadster), then I'd drive it.


The other thing, power to weight is extremely important for performance and fuel consumption. It could be the ugliest car in the world, if it's power to weight ratio is extremely good and handling is good and aero is decent, that's more important than looks, imo.

T-MacK

You can check it out your'self. If you look up CRZ stats on the computer there all the same. The one site I was on was a Honda site. It gave all the dimensions,weight,and power except TQ. All though the car looks hot,I would'nt buy it if you paid me with that weaksauce engine.

MPR

You are right though... All the current available hybrids are garbage and not worth the money. You're better off buying a vw tdi or other cars with available diesel engines.

DumbasSi

Production CrossTour in disquise


I like it so far. 4 doors and a hatch suits my needs perfect. One for me and a CRZ for the wife.

It even looks a little like a Porsche Panamera or BMW 5 series GT.

bengali548

the rear looks really nice and yes is does resemble the porsche a bit

shlammed

when is this supposed to be out again?

DumbasSi

Why, you like it all of the sudden? The Accord looking mule was pretty fugly, but the new pics look way better. Supposed to be out this fall as a 2010 model.

MPR

eeewwwww! not my cup of tea. Though it probably looks alot better without the black disquise coverings....still like everything else on the road.

Looks like they're trying to compete directly with the new toyota venza...because there aren't enough suv, crossovers on the road already!!!

IMO, car companies are trying too hard to compete with eachother, and what happens is we end up with 15 million look-a-like cars on the road that, even though they are made by different manufacturers, look almost that same, drive almost the same and have very similar performance. It's becoming all the same crap!

accord=camry
civic=corolla
blah blah blah blah blah....

This is why I like older cars, pre 2000 ish. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part, I love the older cars for the their smaller size, lighter weight chassis, modifiability, and the more mechanical connection the driver has to the vehicle itself (if you know what I mean).

orthow

I like the latest pics, thats a clean looking crossover.. 5drs ftw!